If you could vote on TPP for America like UK voted on Brexit, how would YOU vote?

[nikto]

62. Extremely unconvincing, relies on emotion to Make the case

I'm sorry, but "trade agreements work ...by arbitration" is not an argument or case.
That is like the empty case the self-serving corporate negotiators of the pact (like Michael Froman) have given,
and they are nothing. Empty reassurances, just like with NAFTA.

The basic argument they make is that TPP's benefit is self-evident because trade is good,
and TPP benefits trade.


Try serving on a jury and arguing for guilt or innocence on that level.

It's on the level of saying,
"Police always lie"
or
"police are always honest".

It's a feeling, not a fact.

I have served on a number of juries, and I actually have heard BOTH of those vapid arguments.
They lost-out, both times, as most of the rest of the jury grimaced,
and went on with the harder work of more concrete deliberations.

In a related matter to TPP...

What about this dispute happening right now over the Keystone Pipeline, enabled by NAFTA:

http://www.dw.com/en/transcanada-files-suit-against-us-over-keystone-xl-pipeline/a-19357565

TPP will INCREASE the ability of companies to sue the US Gov't (or local governments) for damages (i.e.lost profits).

Do you really think this is a good thing?
Please explain why.

How can it be unfair or cruel of me to ask?



Can you at least link to a good analyst who makes an argument for it?
Try some corporate sources if you must, but dig 'em up and post 'em here.
I'll read 'em with interest.

I'm asking for info.
You got any?


IMO, and forgive me for saying this, but you "argue" rather like a rw Republican
defending voter IDs, or climate change denial, or reflexively attacking any kind of gun control.
All emotion, no real info. Mostly FAITH.

Sorry if that sounds offensive, but it is true in this particular instance with TPP.
And with many others besides yourself.

Honestly, sir, that is the level you are communicating on at this point.
It is well below the information-laden level of the "Anti-TPP" side.
That is the truth.

Can't you do better?