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75. So is a ban on semi-automatic rifles unconstitutional to you?

Reply to hack89 (Reply #67)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:37 AM

Jun 2016

And if so, why?

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The well-regulated militia. [View all] kpete Jun 2016 OP

They left out the "responsible gun owner" with the three-year-old who keeps his gun under his pillow Squinch Jun 2016 #1

That would not be responsible Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #2

It's a start, but the "responsible gun owner" who keeps his gun under his pillow, who doesn't Squinch Jun 2016 #3

Then please don't lie and say Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #5

OK then, I won't. And every "responsible gun owner" is "responsible" until he is not. Squinch Jun 2016 #9

No, we are for actual firearms safety that works Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #10

You make me laugh. Squinch Jun 2016 #13

You've got it backwards. Straw Man Jul 2016 #117

Do reread my post and if you care to, respond to it and not the argument in your head. Squinch Jul 2016 #122

I read your post -- once was enough. Straw Man Jul 2016 #127

Eddie Eagle? The joke that requires more paperwork than buying a gun? OK. Thor_MN Jul 2016 #119

I had not been familiar with "Eddie Eagle" but somehow knew that it would turn out to Squinch Jul 2016 #123

Dunning Kruger and craziness dictate that you can't know when you're MillennialDem Jun 2016 #8

What is " age appropriate firearms safety.?" pangaia Jun 2016 #12

Self explanatory Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #16

I would prefer putting the money into music programs. pangaia Jun 2016 #23

That's your choice Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #24

I still prefer the money only be spent on music for kids. pangaia Jun 2016 #25

Some issues are more equal than others? Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #106

Problem with projectchildsafe is the assumption of maturity of the child. haele Jun 2016 #83

Do some research Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #84

Excuse me, but that was not the program you were describing on your post. haele Jun 2016 #88

Yet, childhood gun accident deaths have fallen drastically... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #105

Nancy Reagan wasn't three years old. Hoppy Jun 2016 #43

The eagle flies at midnight. Squinch Jun 2016 #58

Google Nancy Reagan in White House with pistol Hoppy Jun 2016 #73

No thanks. If you want to say something about Nancy Reagan then say it. Squinch Jun 2016 #81

And the solution to gun violence is to have more guns and more violence. baldguy Jun 2016 #4

I have to believe MillennialDem Jun 2016 #21

That's about the size of it. Look at the arguments opposing reasonable gun restrictions. baldguy Jun 2016 #22

Except gun violence has been falling for 20 years hack89 Jun 2016 #27

By your logic that means guns are no longer necessary. baldguy Jun 2016 #28

There is no direct link between number of guns and rates of gun violence hack89 Jun 2016 #29

Which of course is a RW NRA lie. baldguy Jun 2016 #30

Are you saying gun violence hasn't fallen nation wide? hack89 Jun 2016 #31

A lot of states with high suicide rates skewing that chart hack89 Jun 2016 #32

Are you trying to argue that suicides aren't violent, or that they somehow don't matter? baldguy Jun 2016 #33

Did suicide rates increase as gun ownership increased? hack89 Jun 2016 #38

Suicides are part of the public health gun problem, whether you and the NRA like it or not pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #39

And the topic we are discussing is whether gun deaths increased hack89 Jun 2016 #40

Why do you count only gun deaths but not injuries? pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #48

Ok. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #51

Well, that was educational. nt pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #52

Too much anger. hack89 Jun 2016 #53

You call that anger? pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #54

You and I most likely agree on most gun control proposals hack89 Jun 2016 #55

Not always. easttexaslefty Jun 2016 #86

So perhaps a waiting period at purchase. hack89 Jun 2016 #87

Yes baldguy Jun 2016 #41

So now showed the rates from 20 years ago hack89 Jun 2016 #45

The goalposts you moved have been addressed. baldguy Jun 2016 #49

" More guns and more violence " hack89 Jun 2016 #50

Reading comprehension is a skill that produces endless dividends. Perhaps you should cultivate it. baldguy Jun 2016 #59

The NRA does not say we need more violence. I think you just made that up. hack89 Jun 2016 #60

You fail to acknowledge that the crack wars of the 80's and early 90's Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #64

But don't we have many more guns now than we did in 1990? hack89 Jun 2016 #66

More guns does equal more gun violence Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #74

But gun violence didn't increase hack89 Jun 2016 #76

First of all, let me just call bullshit on you repeated assertion that more guns are entering Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #79

Yours is the assertion that is bullshit. beevul Jun 2016 #113

This poll was conducted in the same way that political polls are done Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #114

Meh. beevul Jul 2016 #116

Ah I see. When a poll doesn't go your way, pretend everybody who answered is lying Downtown Hound Jul 2016 #120

Not at all. beevul Jul 2016 #130

Sorry, bald: Guns in circulation up. Gun violence down. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #107

Sorry Elenors, overall amount of homes with guns way down Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #115

You may recall: "More guns = more crime" was and is the mantra of controllers... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #121

Yes, they do. easttexaslefty Jun 2016 #85

suicide is violence uponit7771 Jun 2016 #34

Suicide is a choice. hack89 Jun 2016 #37

True, its a violent choice made by people who have mental issues... violent uponit7771 Jun 2016 #42

So identify and disarm people with mental health issues hack89 Jun 2016 #46

Yeah! Way to stand up for those civil liberties. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #61

If we have to restrict civil liberities to make us all safe hack89 Jun 2016 #62

To civil liberties extend to those that want to live in a safe, violence-free country? Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #65

Of course a balance has to be found. hack89 Jun 2016 #67

So is a ban on semi-automatic rifles unconstitutional to you? Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #75

Perfectly constitutional hack89 Jun 2016 #78

Then do me a favor, never tell me or anybody else that you love your country Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #80

That's nice. hack89 Jun 2016 #82

Like run away and not answer any of the challenges I gave you Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #89

The irony here is that you and I most likely agree on most gun control issues hack89 Jun 2016 #90

If you don't support taking military style weapons off the street, then no, we are not on the same Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #92

Then you will continue to lose hack89 Jun 2016 #93

Actually I don't need to work with you Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #94

Another gun control advocate disconnected from reality once again hack89 Jun 2016 #95

Must have got that info from the same place you got your info saying that gun ownership Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #96

Your post echoes what I said hack89 Jun 2016 #97

Acutally it's not Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #98

Forget Sandy Hook? hack89 Jun 2016 #99

Eventually people are going to grow tired of these massacres and demand action Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #100

"Just you wait" - the motto for gun control for 30 years and counting . nt hack89 Jun 2016 #103

During which time nearly half a million Americans have been killed by guns. Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #110

During which we cut gun deaths rates in half. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #111

Gun nuts did that? LOL. Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #112

Good thing ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #118

Isn't the annual number of U.S. gun deaths now equal to annual car deaths? Hoppy Jun 2016 #44

Yes - they have dropped that much hack89 Jun 2016 #47

Not true Dem2 Jun 2016 #56

That's nice. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #57

The only solution to gun violence is to confiscate every single gun, and make sure Francis Booth Jun 2016 #70

Can you list one single country that has been able to do this? Wayburn Jun 2016 #104

k&r x 100 Photographer Jun 2016 #6

They are regulated only of they stay on their meds. Martin Eden Jun 2016 #7

Hey Mr. Kpete . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #11

Ain't that the truth... hunter Jun 2016 #15

Over 100,000,000 Americans own guns. Scary, huh? Francis Booth Jun 2016 #68

They don't like inconvenient facts. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #102

I don't think.... paleotn Jun 2016 #14

For many of these men it was about keeping the tools of oppression available. hunter Jun 2016 #17

Yep. The disaffected white man's last bastion of power over the rest of us. A toy to protect his ego Squinch Jun 2016 #19

I would argue that during the Civil Rights era, black Americans arming themselves Francis Booth Jun 2016 #69

Did you leave out women who are armed by accident? Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #108

Jefferson was a slave-holding pedophile who couldn't manage his own money much less the country's Squinch Jun 2016 #20

The cartoon makes the point: don't regulate guns...regulate PEOPLE who should not have guns. Sancho Jun 2016 #18

"The cartoon makes the point: don't regulate guns...regulate PEOPLE who should not have guns." pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #71

Great cartoon Gothmog Jun 2016 #26

gun humping cowards Skittles Jun 2016 #35

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #72

All you have is insults Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #77

Whereas you have Eddie Eagle! Squinch Jul 2016 #124

Indeed, as I am for gun safety Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #125

No. It is an NRA program specifically designed NOT to be a good program, and you are shilling it. Squinch Jul 2016 #126

so what is wrong with Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #128

What is "not good" about it? n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #129

Of course you use that phrase to describe anyone who owns a firearm. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #101

They always leave out the "regulated" part npk Jun 2016 #36

Apparently, that just means the equipment runs smoothly and Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #63

No doubt that cartoon causes a lot of issues with a certain crowd. Rex Jun 2016 #91

Hear the NRA pays royalties for these 'toons. For republishing. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #109