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In reply to the discussion: The well-regulated militia. [View all]Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)circulation. They aren't.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html?_r=0
More guns maybe are being sold (or they may not be, don't have the data but it's irrelevant either way), but they're being sold to people who already own guns and are simply buying more. Coincidentally this trend started right around the time right wing loonies started spreading propaganda about how the Federal guv'n'ment was coming with the United Nations black helicopters to take their guns and turn them all into queers. Today it's fashionable among ammosexuals to not just own one gun but a whole arsenal. That does NOT mean more Americans have guns. They don't. The amount of American homes with a gun in them has been steadily declining for four decades. Read the article. It means that there are more guns concentrated in the hands of a smaller percentage of people.
And then when you couple it with the fact that every time people call for any kind of gun control, even something as common sense as expanded background checks, the NRA tells all their peeps that a ban on ALL guns is imminent, so they all rush out and buy as many guns as possible. Again, it doesn't means more people have guns, it means more guns in the hands of a few. It also explains higher gun sales. But that does not mean there are more people out there with guns. It means that there are some people out there who have a shitload of guns.
Second of all, even if what you said was true, even if there were way more guns now than there were a few decades ago and yet gun violence was less than it was 30 years ago, YOU STILL HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE FACT that the U.S. still has way more gun violence than countries with gun control. Basically what you're saying is that because we've gone from astronomically high rates of gun homicides during the crack wars of the 80's and early 90's to just having really high rates of gun violence today, that that means that guns play no part in the violence.
That, sir, is pure and complete bullshit.