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DetlefK

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4. About 2 weeks ago, in a political talk-show...
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:07 AM
Jun 2016

It was a round-table of journalists and editors from various news-sites, newspapers and countries. One of them was from Russia. The topic was the connection between the russian government and sports. Specifically, the topics were the involvement of the russian government in olympic doping and the excuses and encouragement the russian government makes with respect to russian soccer-hooligans.

The Russian countered that this collusion is simple western propaganda and hysteria. "Oh, those evil Russians! Oh, the KGB is involved in this! Oh, the russian government is responsible for all the bad things! You should listen to yourself, this is ridiculous."
(Strangely enough, when another journalist began listing examples, her enthusiasm left her.)

Sure, it could be propaganda.
But when the number of incidents mounts, when the russian government demands that the IOC schedule their surprise-blood-tests 2 weeks in advance, when a russian government-official on camera makes up excuses how russian hooligans just had to beat up people because they were provoked...

At some point, the counter-accusation that this is just western propaganda no longer holds.

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Hate hearing about something BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #1
Putin sends thugs to defecate on US ambassador's floors... SunSeeker Jun 2016 #2
..... MADem Jun 2016 #9
Increased training: "Leave your pets in the U.S." Hortensis Jun 2016 #3
If Putin could put the old USSR back together, he would in a heartbeat. MADem Jun 2016 #8
Absolutely! Wonder who'd replace him if Hortensis Jun 2016 #10
About 2 weeks ago, in a political talk-show... DetlefK Jun 2016 #4
Every drug testing lab in the world is "against" them--LOL! MADem Jun 2016 #7
This is not "anything to win". Russia has not overcome its old-fashioned soviet imperialism. DetlefK Jun 2016 #11
"Russia immediately thought it was all about them." MADem Jun 2016 #13
Hmm there is a lot of Russian hate on this board fasttense Jun 2016 #5
Oh please. Putin IS crazy. That's not "Russian hate." That's fact. nt MADem Jun 2016 #6
No, that's propaganda. Cayenne Jun 2016 #26
So you're saying the diplomats lied about the dead dog and the MADem Jun 2016 #28
If Russia is not the Soviet-Union, tell them to keep their fingers of Ukraine and Georgia. DetlefK Jun 2016 #12
They stole the Crimea, and look what a mess they made there! nt MADem Jun 2016 #14
They took Crimea back! What mess? Cayenne Jun 2016 #27
LOL! MADem Jun 2016 #29
There sure is. ronnie624 Jun 2016 #15
He was a KGB officer... he wants a return of the Shadow War. Adrahil Jun 2016 #16
He was stationed in East Germany-- allegedly had a kid there. MADem Jun 2016 #17
this kind of juvenile stuff is all that the former superpower and empire has left. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18
instead of whining, the FBI should be responding with wit and flair Angel Martin Jun 2016 #19
Well, the FBI can't do much of anything abroad--CIA or other covert agencies, MADem Jun 2016 #20
re: the FBI can't do much of anything abroad Angel Martin Jun 2016 #21
Of course~I just wasn't thinking about hitting them here~!!! MADem Jun 2016 #22
no prob :) Angel Martin Jun 2016 #23
Reminds me of that Elliott Ness film with Connery....! MADem Jun 2016 #24
Putin and Erdogan are power crazy loons Albertoo Jun 2016 #25
Well, to use a colloquialism of an old childhood friend of mine CentralMass Jun 2016 #30
How apropos! LOL! nt MADem Jun 2016 #31
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