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Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
70. You are right.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

One of the political spins on the free trade of the early fifties was it was important to keep it in place to prevent countries like Japan from "going communist". The first industry that the Japanese completely took over was sewing machines. They ran the Americans and Germans out of the business by the 70's. after they had developed their industry the machine tool industry was next. They succeeded by building high quality machines that were accurate and reliable. The American companies were slow to change to modern technology and their electronics sucked big time. I remember trying to get an American electronics company that would partner on a new control system for web printing in the 70's. No dice. I had to go to Japan. Looking back I think the failure of American industry was caused by a system that rewards very short term gains at the expense of long term success. I watched industry after industry topple because they didn't keep up with technology. It's actually very complex and there were a lot of reasons but a good example would be when Sears switched to Japanese sewing machines and White, their previous provider found it more profitable to rebrand Japanese machines than manufacture their own.

Ross Perot was right. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #1
That really sucks. Kablooie Jun 2016 #26
I saw that... freebrew Jun 2016 #63
Sweden trades more than twice as we do. Their unions are strong. Their wages are high. pampango Jun 2016 #2
The Nordics and Free Trade Human101948 Jun 2016 #14
How do they have positive trade balances without tariffs and with high wages and strong unions? pampango Jun 2016 #51
Also because wealthy corporations have gotten wealthy exporting jobs to other countries and then Akamai Jun 2016 #73
This just means their trade policies protect them. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #18
They have lower tariffs and more 'no tariff' trade than the US has. pampango Jun 2016 #46
Uncle Alan on greater worker insecurity... appalachiablue Jun 2016 #68
That evil old face is scary. N/t Scruffy1 Jun 2016 #69
I'd never heard this passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #75
Yup/ Free Market Job Creation, Bedford Falls: 'It's a Wonderful Life' GOP Version. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #77
I would also propose Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2016 #25
I'm sure you are right. They expect more from their government and "are more than willing pampango Jun 2016 #50
VAT tax.... paleotn Jun 2016 #28
VAT applies to both imports and domestic products. Tariffs only apply to imports. pampango Jun 2016 #49
Yes, it applies to both paleotn Jun 2016 #52
So applying a VAT (say 20%) to both imports and domestic products levels the playing field? pampango Jun 2016 #58
What the heck are you talking about? paleotn Jun 2016 #59
The Swedish VAT raises the cost of a Swedish-made car by assessing incremental increases at each pampango Jun 2016 #60
Not always. Only in the last few decades. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #3
Exactly passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #19
Anything Trump is for , I'm against! Cryptoad Jun 2016 #4
Just because Trump stopped thinking doesn't mean Democrats should. No automatic positions, pls. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #10
You must change your opinions often, then n2doc Jun 2016 #12
That is a pretty closed minded view. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #21
Mostly agree Cosmocat Jun 2016 #66
Are you against broken clocks as well? paleotn Jun 2016 #30
As with all "free" advertising campaigns. Downwinder Jun 2016 #5
Yeah, like free college tuition? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #23
Only for the Military. Downwinder Jun 2016 #27
We could always reinstate the draft passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #36
Conscripts have a different attitude. Downwinder Jun 2016 #41
That is it, right there. LuvNewcastle Jun 2016 #39
The military doesn't always cover full college costs. Exilednight Jun 2016 #43
United States service academies Downwinder Jun 2016 #47
DURec leftstreet Jun 2016 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #7
Quite so. sangfroid Jun 2016 #8
. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #9
That "giant sucking sound" mountain grammy Jun 2016 #11
Another broken clock.... paleotn Jun 2016 #31
Pretty huge thing to be right about. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #53
I am for Fair Trade. One that benefits everyone. madinmaryland Jun 2016 #13
Me too. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #24
And the latest ones are mainly about proving more power and leverage to big corporations n2doc Jun 2016 #15
Let's say it again passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #16
Yep. LuvNewcastle Jun 2016 #45
Actually, You are Wrong About the Origin of Free Trade mckara Jun 2016 #17
Post rec Dem2 Jun 2016 #22
You are right. Scruffy1 Jun 2016 #70
K&R rgbecker Jun 2016 #20
Bankrupting a company so Aerows Jun 2016 #29
+1 840high Jun 2016 #33
+5 It was Reagan's admin. that made pensions an "assett" I believe. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #40
K & R appalachiablue Jun 2016 #32
.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #34
As far as I know Ricardian international economics is still sound Cary Jun 2016 #35
TPP-ISDS and the Democrats Arizona Roadrunner Jun 2016 #37
"Free Trade" has very little to do with trade... Shebear Jun 2016 #38
the 'HOUSE' always wins. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #44
It's simple really. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #48
k&r nationalize the fed Jun 2016 #54
You have to explain simple concepts, most have degrees from Google U. Rex Jun 2016 #55
Yep. The US would be a better place if all 50 states could impose tariffs on trade with each other. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #56
TPP enables interstate commerce? klook Jun 2016 #61
I was replying to the OP which did not mention TPP at all (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #62
4) JEB Jun 2016 #57
Ahhh ha libodem Jun 2016 #64
I'd suggest that we use some other term than "free trade" FairWinds Jun 2016 #65
I wonder what we got in return for this "compromise." Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #67
This is how it went Urchin Jun 2016 #71
FAIR TRADE Angry Dragon Jun 2016 #72
There's no such thing as free trade. Some people lose big time ... WORKERS Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #74
Free trade agreements aren't so much about free trade Craig234 Jun 2016 #76
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