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Yavin4

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12. No. My argument is that voters in the U.S. mythologize the past instead of voting for better

Reply to brentspeak (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 04:20 PM

Jun 2016

government policies and actions in the present. Bringing back factory jobs does nothing to change that. You would still need massive govt. intervention to re-create those middle class jobs, and if the people already don't vote for health care, child care, education, etc., what makes you think that these same people will vote for a government that makes these factories pay middle class wages and benefits?

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The four-letter word supporters of free trade never utter: DEBT [View all] brentspeak Jun 2016 OP

Tag Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #1

"Allowing cheap imports" to enter market forced American companies to make better, more affordable Hoyt Jun 2016 #2

I'm sorry... orwell Jun 2016 #3

Consumer debt has everything to do with cheap imports brentspeak Jun 2016 #7

Nobody's "forcing" consumers to do anything. orwell Jun 2016 #8

Well, that's good you're not in debt brentspeak Jun 2016 #9

You're an anecdote, and a lucky one, but one data point is meaningless closeupready Jun 2016 #14

There's not much link between credit card debt and trade agreements. DanTex Jun 2016 #4

You're conflating American consumer debt with factory jobs Yavin4 Jun 2016 #5

You basically supported my argument brentspeak Jun 2016 #6

It was automation first trade is about 3rd or 4th on the list but its easy to demagogue others uponit7771 Jun 2016 #10

What was the reason manufacturing has been offshored to China and Mexico? brentspeak Jun 2016 #11

No, to take advanctage of a cheaper labor market... still makes it the 3rd or 4th reason why ... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #13

No. My argument is that voters in the U.S. mythologize the past instead of voting for better Yavin4 Jun 2016 #12