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Chan790

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24. I think you're going to see attrition from the 80% if the TPP plank isn't added.

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:31 PM

Jun 2016

All it will take is one media insinuation that it was excluded to allow Hillary the room to flip-flop on TPP down the road (whether she actually does or intends to is irrelevant) and it's going to start a bloodbath as progressives begin to fear she's exactly the establishment stooge they opposed until she showed she wasn't. Doubly so if she nominates an unquestionable establishment lackey like Kaine for VP.

I don't think it's optional. More so, it's supported by the nominee of the Democratic party so arguments against its inclusion run contrary to good sense and the direction of the party. I don't think we should give a damn what the position of the outgoing President is on this or any matter. His day is passing, the sunset on the relevance of his opinion approaches.

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Email from Keith Ellison re: the TPP and the Democratic Platform Committee. [View all] 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 OP

I hope he gets it blocked. Shandris Jun 2016 #1

There are many who 840high Jun 2016 #2

I hear you 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #3

I'm with you! phazed0 Jun 2016 #14

I'm not. I'm for strong changes to the TPP. Hortensis Jun 2016 #27

You're repeating propaganda elljay Jun 2016 #36

There is nothing "liberal" about business sacking Hortensis Jun 2016 #41

Spell check problem. neo liberal elljay Jun 2016 #42

Nonsense. You should not be repeating these lies. Hortensis Jun 2016 #43

Lets try FACTS instead of invctive: bvar22 Jun 2016 #45

Irrelevant. NEOLIBERAL IS HARD-CORE CONSERVATIVISM. Hortensis Jun 2016 #46

You seem confused. bvar22 Jun 2016 #47

The part where you say "facts instead of invective." Hortensis Jun 2016 #49

You are correct in that "Neoliberalism is the antithesis of liberalism" and that PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #48

Kochs embrace "neoliberals" whenever it Hortensis Jul 2016 #53

So, does that mean you won't vote for SheilaT Jun 2016 #31

The way trhey're setting it up elljay Jun 2016 #37

This ^^^^!!!!! KPN Jun 2016 #38

K & R. No how, no way to yet another Hafta trade deal to exterminate US workers appalachiablue Jun 2016 #4

That a fearful, victim-mentality position. We will be Hortensis Jun 2016 #28

No fearful victim, Reality. TPP is another pig in a poke to the mass uninformed. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #33

Chairmen serve a 14-year term, Appalachiablue. Hortensis Jun 2016 #34

Greenspan's remarks about greater worker insecurity appalachiablue Jun 2016 #35

Greenspans remarks are intensely CONSERVATIVE. Hortensis Jun 2016 #44

Your accusation that I am a conservative propagandist is false, appalachiablue Jul 2016 #52

Right! It's all the WORKERS' fault! bread_and_roses Jun 2016 #50

The poor downtrodden "workers" of this nation are Hortensis Jul 2016 #51

Didn't we Democrats learn anything about the Brexit vote? fasttense Jun 2016 #5

Data shows that Brexit supporters were anti-immigrant, anti-Green, anti-social liberalism, pampango Jun 2016 #12

That's what I'm saying. fasttense Jun 2016 #16

So we have to throw Obama and a large part of our base under the bus and scapegoat pampango Jun 2016 #18

I didn't say anything about throwing anyone under the bus fasttense Jun 2016 #21

Sad, but true... Shebear Jun 2016 #13

Thank you Keith Ellison - a Dem with a spine! Shebear Jun 2016 #6

Imagine that! 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #7

Yes, she did... Shebear Jun 2016 #10

I signed on and donated. GentryDixon Jun 2016 #8

Signed. geardaddy Jun 2016 #9

Glad to hear that our draft platform is the "most progressive statement" pampango Jun 2016 #11

The DNC Cryptoad Jun 2016 #15

If they want progressives to continue to join the march towards history of electing Hillary... Chan790 Jun 2016 #19

I dont think Cryptoad Jun 2016 #22

I think you're going to see attrition from the 80% if the TPP plank isn't added. Chan790 Jun 2016 #24

that attitude is Cryptoad Jun 2016 #26

and isn't that an utterly damning statement of the state of the new Democratic party AntiBank Jun 2016 #32

Dead in the water? Are you serious? KPN Jun 2016 #39

I STRONGLY oppose this proposed amendment. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #17

Unsurprising. Chan790 Jun 2016 #20

Putting out that "free" trade deals are good for working people is a lie fasttense Jun 2016 #23

We agree. n/t Chan790 Jun 2016 #25

"Free Trade" == "Cheap Labor". nt bemildred Jun 2016 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #30

The irony lost in all this LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #40