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21. Who is in charge of this global capitalism?

Reply to Odin2005 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:26 AM

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How low should the Average American Income be? [View all] HughBeaumont Jun 2016 OP

us serfs should take the leavings and crumbs from the tables of our betters and be GRATEFUL! hobbit709 Jun 2016 #1

and not having to fight the dogs for them. nt Javaman Jun 2016 #2

Crumbs: It's STILL Asking Too Much, You Quasi-Republican Peegs! HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #3

So much hyperbole and pearl clutching.... JaneyVee Jun 2016 #4

so much unwillingness to face facts. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #6

Necessity costs are what's killing the middle/working/poor, not the price of tchotchkes. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #12

The only people against raising wages are Republicans.... JaneyVee Jun 2016 #35

Boy, could I win money off of you . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #48

Good God Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2016 #109

I hear you. It leaves you dumbfounded. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #116

Lol. Raising wages by how much? To what level? KPN Jun 2016 #58

Those saying that $12/hour is a fine minimum wage? AllyCat Jun 2016 #39

Umm no. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #43

Unions are not about just the wages. We work for safe working conditions AllyCat Jun 2016 #44

This. Not raising minimum wages encourages union membership... scscholar Jun 2016 #81

The minimum wage doesn't move union wages up or down. There's no connection. It's made up. eom fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #68

Free trade means no regulations and is the reason many people are taken advantage of and poor. Rex Jun 2016 #55

Free trade means no regulations? Igel Jun 2016 #61

Well then you support fair trade, good to know. Rex Jun 2016 #63

That's a vacuous response. eom fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #69

Yes your response is most vacuous. Rex Jun 2016 #70

Nope, reading it wrong gives me a sad. Sorry. Although finding I read it wrong gives me a happy. :-) fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #75

Excellent. Rex Jun 2016 #76

Read DU posts re same! N/T Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #56

pearl clutching SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #57

You ignore the past 25 years of free trade -- KPN Jun 2016 #65

What have the Romans done for us? fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #72

Those are all cost of production factors KPN Jun 2016 #103

No need to end in a non sequitur. fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #127

You mean the free trade Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #110

Rust Belt Denizen here! HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #117

The average American wage doesn't need to be low at all. Just pay the 1% enough to pull it up. Scuba Jun 2016 #5

The 1% could buy everything FOR us. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #10

Ugh. If a job is repetitive, dangerous, or just plain icky, jobs will be replaced by robots. fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #78

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How about doing something beyond ruining the economy? HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #18

K & R mountain grammy Jun 2016 #7

There is no going back to some idealized vision of the 50s. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #8

And you think giving the corporations more power will help everyone? hobbit709 Jun 2016 #9

Who said anything about giving corporations more power? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #11

Who is in charge of this global capitalism? seabeckind Jun 2016 #21

We all are. You buy products made overseas all the time. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #36

Because there is little else to buy. AllyCat Jun 2016 #41

Needs are a tough call. Igel Jun 2016 #67

When do you think you'll get around to fixing that airbag problem? seabeckind Jun 2016 #49

Y'all have this idealized vision where workers have a say in the outcome of American progress. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #13

Hence the reason for Unions madokie Jun 2016 #20

Well, when you have governors doing the work of the Kochs . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #25

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I would like to have corporate charters changed. seabeckind Jun 2016 #26

Should be easy to change a corporate charter in that regard. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #34

so lets put support for global labor organization in the platform tk2kewl Jun 2016 #28

+1 Go Vols Jun 2016 #106

I think if the US wanted to we could turn around globalism in a heartbeat. fasttense Jun 2016 #42

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Is this fucking serious? HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #15

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And speaking of BS Gormy Cuss Jun 2016 #31

"Communists" . . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #33

Why don't you ask all of the working people he ripped off? TBA Jun 2016 #19

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Guys on the lido deck don't like this attitude. seabeckind Jun 2016 #17

The Lido Deck . . . and I just watched Love Boat recently!! HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #22

What? A box isn't good enough for you? Bettie Jun 2016 #97

Cricket and Aphid sauce wraps are amazing. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #98

If you can manage to steal them Bettie Jun 2016 #100

I was just reading yesterday that thistles are very edible passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #113

Congressional salaries should be tied to Downwinder Jun 2016 #23

It isn't the salary, it's the perks. seabeckind Jun 2016 #24

That is another matter. Downwinder Jun 2016 #27

I pretty much think it's the most important matter. seabeckind Jun 2016 #50

You mean median, but still Too high passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #111

According to whom? malthaussen Jun 2016 #37

Capitalism can't work with NO income. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #40

Sure, but who says the ruling class are capitalists? malthaussen Jun 2016 #46

So what's the solution? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #38

The answer is regulated capitalism Moostache Jun 2016 #47

Excellent. I may just have to borrow that. seabeckind Jun 2016 #53

I support regulated capitalism and markets IronLionZion Jun 2016 #73

While everything you said here is 100% correct, what you failed to mention passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #114

Oh, the CEO Larceny Cabal needs to have a rein put on their asses. HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #126

The trick is to push it as low as possible ... Martin Eden Jun 2016 #45

Per capita income now is $57,000 compared to ~$40,000 in Sweden, Germany and other progressive pampango Jun 2016 #51

If we drop off the top 400 seabeckind Jun 2016 #59

We should go after more than the top 400 but that would be a start. pampango Jun 2016 #60

Back when the tax rates were much higher seabeckind Jun 2016 #62

Standing ovation!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #52

That isn't a remotely meaningful question - the average wage has nothing to do with poverty. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #54

Is there any way you can word your questions without being patently insulting? HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #92

I feel your OP leaves you in something of a glass house in this respect... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #94

That is a very good question that makes some uncomfortable. Rex Jun 2016 #64

Divide GDP by Population Octafish Jun 2016 #66

They sure are crying all over the place about fair trade. Rex Jun 2016 #71

$4.25/hour, like Puerto Rico MisterP Jun 2016 #74

Not bad, that's double what they make in India. Rex Jun 2016 #77

Americans are SPECIAL. Our incomes should be higher than the world average. Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #79

$1 a day would put pretty much all non-financially independent people under a bridge. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #82

How low should the average WORLD wages be? Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #85

$5000 a year for everyone. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #87

I can live comfortably on 18k a year Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #80

I DO live comfortably on less than $12,000 per year. Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #88

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHH HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #93

"Not as bad as..." Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #101

On the bright side, if 90% of people only made $18K, housing and everything else would be less or Hoyt Jun 2016 #83

That's a "Bright Side"?? HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #84

Sorry, if they can't sell a product to the masses, they aren't going to make any money. You'd Hoyt Jun 2016 #90

Someone better tell the universities that. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #96

I think it was a joke. Rex Jun 2016 #91

I suggest that Charles Dicken's London would be an excellent model to follow. Kablooie Jun 2016 #86

Let's benchmark the golden age at 1968 for minimum wage. fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #89

I hope your next screed will be in opposition to nuance. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #95

Working all the time and still have total poverty. Rec for comments. nilesobek Jun 2016 #99

Thank you for this post TheFarseer Jun 2016 #102

It's depressing for sure. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #104

I've met business types who resent the idea of paying for an employee's car payments. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #105

I think that depends on who the person with the checkbook thinks is average. jtuck004 Jun 2016 #107

Oh come now. McDonald's is expanding in India - Earth is Saved! tenderfoot Jun 2016 #108

I've even seen "say hello to your replacement, $15/hr supporters" trolls . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #115

If you aren't starving to death Aerows Jun 2016 #112

Better to die and decrease the surplus population. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #118

KNR. n/t DirkGently Jun 2016 #119

Supporters of unfair competition are anti-society and support breaking down civilization AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #120

Define average. Define income. mwooldri Jul 2016 #121

kick for exposure. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Jul 2016 #123

Kick because I agree senseandsensibility Jul 2016 #124

Ross Perot told us the plan in 92. He laid it all out. And thus far, all has been going just silvershadow Jul 2016 #125

At a level that would please a Pakistani bricklayer. AngryAmish Jul 2016 #128