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pnwmom

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32. Those cases are no precedent for Hillary.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:31 PM - Edit history (7)

According to court documents, Nishimura was a Naval reservist deployed in Afghanistan in 2007 and 2008. In his role as a Regional Engineer for the U.S. military in Afghanistan, Nishimura had access to classified briefings and digital records that could only be retained and viewed on authorized government computers. Nishimura, however, caused the materials to be downloaded and stored on his personal, unclassified electronic devices and storage media. He carried such classified materials on his unauthorized media when he traveled off-base in Afghanistan and, ultimately, carried those materials back to the United States at the end of his deployment. In the United States, Nishimura continued to maintain the information on unclassified systems in unauthorized locations, and copied the materials onto at least one additional unauthorized and unclassified system.


Hillary used her personal email just as Colin Powell had before her and with the full knowledge of the State Department. And she didn't download classified materials and carry them off to Afghanistan!

And, according to the statutes, sensitive information must be officially classified (see the second article below). There is a process for it and also a person who is in charge of that: the person who is the head of each department. Hillary was the ultimate authority on what state department document needed to be classified or de-classified.

Past cases suggest Hillary won’t be indicted

A POLITICO review shows marked differences between her case and those that led to charges.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-prosecution-past-cases-221744

The relatively few cases that drew prosecution almost always involved a deliberate intent to violate classification rules as well as some add-on element: An FBI agent who took home highly sensitive agency records while having an affair with a Chinese agent; a Boeing engineer who brought home 2000 classified documents and whose travel to Israel raised suspicions; a National Security Agency official who removed boxes of classified documents and also lied on a job application form.

Clinton herself, gearing up for her FBI testimony, said last week that a prosecution is “not gonna happen.” And former prosecutors, investigators and defense attorneys generally agree that prosecution for classified information breaches is the exception rather than the rule, with criminal charges being reserved for cases the government views as the most egregious or flagrant.
“They always involve some ‘plus’ factor. Sometimes that ‘plus’ factor may reach its way into the public record, but more likely it won’t,” one former federal prosecutor said.

A former senior FBI official told POLITICO that when it comes to mishandling of classified information the Justice Department has traditionally turned down prosecution of all but the most clear-cut cases.



Why Hillary Won't Be Indicted and Shouldn't Be: An Objective Legal Analysis

There is no reason to think that Clinton committed any crimes with respect to the use of her email server.


Richard O. Lempert, University of Michigan School of Law

http://prospect.org/article/why-hillary-wont-be-indicted-and-shouldnt-be-objective-legal-analysis

The statute also provides a definition of what constitutes classified information within the meaning of the subsection described above: “[C]lassified information, means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for … restricted dissemination.”

Again, the most important words are the ones I have italicized. First, they indicate that the material must have been classified at the time of disclosure. Post hoc classification, which seems to characterize most of the classified material found on Clinton’s server, cannot support an indictment under this section. Second, information no matter how obviously sensitive does not classify itself; it must be officially and specifically designated as such.

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She's not recusing herself. That premise is completely wrong. floriduck Jul 2016 #1
Please explain PJMcK Jul 2016 #2
To recuse oneself, you remove yourself completely and allow someone else to participate in your floriduck Jul 2016 #5
Absolutely correct. 840high Jul 2016 #7
Please see my response to floriduck (post #8) (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2016 #12
Thanks for your response but it leads to some questions PJMcK Jul 2016 #8
I simply wanted to make the correct distinction regarding recusals. floriduck Jul 2016 #9
We have no argument PJMcK Jul 2016 #10
Thanks you do the same. floriduck Jul 2016 #11
And I enjoyed this reparte as well passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #24
Thank you, passiveporcupine PJMcK Jul 2016 #35
A lot of nothing shenmue Jul 2016 #3
Perhaps you've misunderstood me PJMcK Jul 2016 #4
If you think there is nothing there you simply haven't been paying attention. leveymg Jul 2016 #13
What exactly do you believe is going to happen? KMOD Jul 2016 #15
How so? You have "inside information" about this investigation? George II Jul 2016 #17
Have a nice day. floriduck Jul 2016 #6
I appreciate this post. KMOD Jul 2016 #14
YES, the FBI investigates (ergo the "I" in FBI), the DOJ and prosecutors decided how to use... George II Jul 2016 #16
The lack of Journalism is appalling PJMcK Jul 2016 #18
I actually heard "journalist" Chuck Todd say "eksetera" (phonetically) last week. EK-F-ING-SETERA!! George II Jul 2016 #19
The really depressing thing is that their bosses don't know the difference PJMcK Jul 2016 #21
Remember how David Letterman rued the day that baby bush left the White House? George II Jul 2016 #23
They've become lazy. KMOD Jul 2016 #20
It's worse than lazy PJMcK Jul 2016 #22
It doesn't matter. B2G Jul 2016 #25
Is that how the investigative/prosecutorial process works? PJMcK Jul 2016 #26
It is swamped indeed. B2G Jul 2016 #27
You've expressed that well PJMcK Jul 2016 #28
You as well B2G Jul 2016 #29
No one's going to recommend she be prosecuted because there are no precedents pnwmom Jul 2016 #30
... Crepuscular Jul 2016 #31
Those cases are no precedent for Hillary. pnwmom Jul 2016 #32
... Crepuscular Jul 2016 #33
Nishimura intentionally downloaded classified materials. It was not inadvertent. pnwmom Jul 2016 #34
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