General Discussion

PJMcK

(24,964 posts)

127. Sorry to parse words, lostnfound

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 01:35 PM

Jul 2016

We have more media today than ever before, mostly thanks to technology.

What we don't have is a functioning Fourth Estate. A fully independent slew of journalists is required for democracy to properly work. This is one reason that freedom of the press is a First Amendment right. An informed public is necessary for free elections to make sense. If the public is ignorant, how can they make informed electoral choices?

I remember watching the evening news with my parents and recognizing that the news was serious business. My parents often argued about whether to watch Walter Cronkite or Huntley/Brinkley but never Peter Jennings; my mom said, "He's too young to be taken seriously." Yet each of the networks presented the real news. Good times for the American public. Today, not so much. Of course, as you wrote, there are reliable news sources available, especially online. The big problem is that too few of our fellow citizens are paying attention.

But you already knew this, didn't you? (wink)

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

130 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Let me spell this our for those in the "Clinton/Lynch thing is no big deal" camp. [View all] B2G Jul 2016 OP

Here's the thing KMOD Jul 2016 #1

Which camp is Comey in exactly? B2G Jul 2016 #4

I expect him to release a very KMOD Jul 2016 #10

FBI directors don't issue guidelines for other agencies. Press Virginia Jul 2016 #17

They need to placate Chuck Grassley's concerns. KMOD Jul 2016 #21

+1 emulatorloo Jul 2016 #24

Comey testifies on Bush's illegality Coyotl Jul 2016 #122

What kind of investigation are you imagining the FBI is doing? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #13

How big of a moron Chuck Grassley really is. KMOD Jul 2016 #23

I didn't realize that was the FBI's role. Hmm. I was under the impression leeroysphitz Jul 2016 #56

The are investigating Chuck Grassley's concerns. KMOD Jul 2016 #66

Somewhat inaccurate. Adrahil Jul 2016 #85

Thanks for paying attention BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #87

I can't figure why anyone involved thought that was a good idea Lee-Lee Jul 2016 #2

It's eye-opening when you realize that many political lawyers play it across the line. Baitball Blogger Jul 2016 #16

And thats exactly the point. NOBODY with either of them said "bad idea"? 7962 Jul 2016 #42

The conspiracy theories were already there, always have been, always will. Agschmid Jul 2016 #51

That mill didn't need any more grist so it was still poor judgement. n/t leeroysphitz Jul 2016 #58

And all this does is make them MORE believable. 7962 Jul 2016 #74

It just seems funny that certain people cause so much drama for themselves. Matt_R Jul 2016 #96

Well, it sounds like he knows who he's dealing with, and is willing to do it. We will see, soon. leveymg Jul 2016 #3

Who came to that conclusion?...the Deputy Special Council?... pkdu Jul 2016 #5

The guy in charge of this email investigation. B2G Jul 2016 #6

Nice try. pkdu Jul 2016 #9

WTF are you even talking about? B2G Jul 2016 #11

Self inflicted wounds... deathrind Jul 2016 #7

Optics can be a bitch. Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #8

Clinton's intent doesn't even matter now. B2G Jul 2016 #12

Agree. Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #19

Exactly loyalsister Jul 2016 #82

Billy seems to step in things Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #83

I'm confident that she will win loyalsister Jul 2016 #84

This is Hillary's Campaign to lose. Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #86

Don't include Sanders. He's make it obvious that he has no enthusiasm for campaigning . . . brush Jul 2016 #116

yep +10 840high Jul 2016 #80

You're blaming this on the weather????? Chasstev365 Jul 2016 #45

Zero. Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #48

Clinton is not a lawyer angrychair Jul 2016 #68

One would think the former AG of Arkansas would know better. nt B2G Jul 2016 #71

He applied for, and got, reinstatement. If he's kept up paying the annual fees, he's a lawyer. merrily Jul 2016 #107

He did not "lose" the right to practice law. ET Awful Jul 2016 #121

Thatis a very loose interpretation of what happened angrychair Jul 2016 #123

Saying he "lost" it is more of a stretch n/t ET Awful Jul 2016 #130

Question. You say they were friends. Where did that info come from? Rilgin Jul 2016 #72

It's called the Cocktail Wellstone ruled Jul 2016 #73

They have history together. Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #97

He may not even have met her in 1999 just followed recommendations for a slate of appointments Rilgin Jul 2016 #125

. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #14

Always the incisive comment. HERVEPA Jul 2016 #101

Bill, go to your room Motley13 Jul 2016 #15

No, you are wrong about this. I listened to her interview this morning. She said she riversedge Jul 2016 #18

And she just happened to announce this today. B2G Jul 2016 #20

please listen to her. She also said that given the riversedge Jul 2016 #31

She said so 2 weeks ago on MTP. Guess you missed that in your rush to post. blm Jul 2016 #54

That's not exactly what she said. B2G Jul 2016 #60

How biased! scscholar Jul 2016 #35

Who is being biased? riversedge Jul 2016 #37

That is what she is doing. It's in the op alfredo Jul 2016 #67

But, but, but, the poster was spelling it out for us!!!! How will we know what to believe in the Squinch Jul 2016 #47

Our much vaunted press has done a terrible job of explaining the FBI investigation lapucelle Jul 2016 #22

Thanks for the post. Very good. riversedge Jul 2016 #38

Your word usage and tone calls into question angrychair Jul 2016 #70

Bingo. Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #76

Like most of the people here at DU, I'm not impartial. lapucelle Jul 2016 #124

Excellent post... LenaBaby61 Jul 2016 #77

We don't actually have a media anymore, not like the 60s and 70s lostnfound Jul 2016 #88

Sorry to parse words, lostnfound PJMcK Jul 2016 #127

"watching the evening news with my parents and recognizing that the news was serious business. " lostnfound Jul 2016 #128

Th decision was already made prior to . . . Iliyah Jul 2016 #25

Sure it was. nt B2G Jul 2016 #26

Yes, of course it was jberryhill Jul 2016 #29

+1 Agschmid Jul 2016 #59

"Lynch has decided that she will accept the FBI recommendation" - she decided that months ago. George II Jul 2016 #27

Did she? B2G Jul 2016 #28

You think she's stupid? jberryhill Jul 2016 #30

I think it's surprising that she didn't say anything at that time. B2G Jul 2016 #32

In this case, your 'surprise' sounds a lot like concern trolling emulatorloo Jul 2016 #39

fake/manufactured Clinton 'scandal' Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2016 #53

I am referring to Lynch/Clinton "Tarmac-gate". As to FBI, emulatorloo Jul 2016 #120

I agree with you. The assumption that she did something wrong to begin with is more than a little Laser102 Jul 2016 #55

Whatever keeps the outrage meter pegged at 11! JoePhilly Jul 2016 #33

That's not necessarily a problem as it effectively kicks the decision upstairs ucrdem Jul 2016 #34

Yeah Obama's got this covered Geronimoe Jul 2016 #41

How well did the saturday night massacre work for Nixon? karynnj Jul 2016 #43

Fortunately the situations aren't remotely comparable. ucrdem Jul 2016 #108

The similarity is that the public reaction will be similar karynnj Jul 2016 #119

LOOK HOW WELL THINGS WENT FOR GEN. PETRAUS. cynzke Jul 2016 #36

Eric Holder was Director at that time not Lynch Geronimoe Jul 2016 #40

IT'S WORSE - THERE WERE HIBBIE JOBBIES AT THE AIRPORT! jberryhill Jul 2016 #44

... La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #46

Well jberryhill Jul 2016 #49

there are some who are still hoping that by some magic HRC will lose this primary La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #50

This thread is not about the meeting itself B2G Jul 2016 #52

lol uponit7771 Jul 2016 #92

Still in " no big deal" camp MFM008 Jul 2016 #57

Agree, Sanders is out definitively. B2G Jul 2016 #61

Is Bill Clinton trying to sabotage Hillary? liberalmuse Jul 2016 #62

I've asked that same question dflprincess Jul 2016 #99

Well, it seems that Bill Clinton wants to establish or maintain friendly terms with the US Atty HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #115

Comey is an Obama appointee... modestybl Jul 2016 #63

Let me repeat that: Comey is an Obama appointee amandabeech Jul 2016 #81

Ok,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2016 #64

Emails! Emails! Emails! Drink! Drink! Drink! randome Jul 2016 #90

seems legit ! stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #65

Minus 50 points for not mentioning "neo-liberalism" Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #69

Damn. Must try harder. nt B2G Jul 2016 #75

Am I wrong? 40RatRod Jul 2016 #78

IOKIYAR Warpy Jul 2016 #79

The Kerry State Department is NOT right wing. This is not a right wing investigation onecaliberal Jul 2016 #103

SURE it is. Warpy Jul 2016 #109

Then why did Obama choose him for the FBI? 1939 Jul 2016 #111

And the unsecured server was their idea too? Yeah didn't think so. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #117

I am very surprised to hear you say that yourpaljoey Jul 2016 #126

She said she would accept the reccomendations of "career prosecutors" Thor_MN Jul 2016 #89

Laws are only for the little people after all. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #104

Huh? Did you mean to reply to someone else? Thor_MN Jul 2016 #106

++++++++THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE OP IS FALSE ON ITS FACE++++++++++ uponit7771 Jul 2016 #91

Bill Clinton is a dumbass. Period. nt broadcaster75201 Jul 2016 #93

Except the people making a big deal of this don't have a great track record. baldguy Jul 2016 #94

Are there really any minds left to change? Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #98

And objective people will think this is fucking ridiculous no matter what the party onecaliberal Jul 2016 #105

That fact that Hillary didn't do anything wrong means nest Jul 2016 #100

She was always going to do that MaggieD Jul 2016 #102

Precedent videohead5 Jul 2016 #110

There are degrees... TipTok Jul 2016 #112

But videohead5 Jul 2016 #113

We'll see where it shakes out... TipTok Jul 2016 #114

BFD. He could have picked up a phone and called her if he really wanted to do something Gman Jul 2016 #118

Amazing how scandal-free Obama has been... modestybl Jul 2016 #129