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71. not to pick a fight but non craft, mass produced US beer is absolute shite

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Sun Jul 3, 2016, 02:45 PM

Jul 2016

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You want to know what is taking middle class jobs? [View all] sheshe2 Jul 2016 OP

What took middle class jobs are the f--g middle class wanting cheap doc03 Jul 2016 #1

Why are you trashing the middle class? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #3

I am not trashing the middle class I am trashing people bitching about imports doc03 Jul 2016 #4

Yes, you're so right. Nt TheFarseer Jul 2016 #6

I never "bitched" about imports. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #7

Yes you are right the internet takes people's jobs. The invention of the computer doc03 Jul 2016 #14

No. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #18

Who buys Toyotas and says American cars are junk? Who buys Corona doc03 Jul 2016 #22

?????????????????????????????????????????? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #24

All Corona sold in the US is bottled in Oklahoma Recursion Jul 2016 #41

My Toyota was made in Kentucky. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #45

Just as a side note I just read this morning Toyota is dropping the Prius, sales doc03 Jul 2016 #64

Do you know where you read PasadenaTrudy Jul 2016 #68

It was on the Yahoo home page yesterday, possibly Xfinity but doc03 Jul 2016 #86

not to pick a fight but non craft, mass produced US beer is absolute shite AntiBank Jul 2016 #71

I don't drink so I don't know, but hubby is Dutch and drinks exclusively Heineken, Grolsch, and BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #76

have him try this, superb Dutch trappist ale (only actual Trappist monastery brewery in Holland) AntiBank Jul 2016 #83

It's not the middle class making the decisions from where to buy their steel or anything else. YOHABLO Jul 2016 #37

...steel for bridges and construction is not what drive our economy... Chan790 Jul 2016 #47

Steel and infrastructure is not driving our economy My Good Babushka Jul 2016 #51

I don't agree with your comment on steel, you don't think it takes people doc03 Jul 2016 #62

This actually goes back to MGB's point... Chan790 Jul 2016 #78

By all measurable economics, this is 100% correct. The OP is actually quite wrong, the Exilednight Jul 2016 #87

Depends on where you live! Here in Seattle, the Director's Rules prevent... scscholar Jul 2016 #2

Fucking Poe's law Scootaloo Jul 2016 #39

Whaaat? n/t PasadenaTrudy Jul 2016 #69

What the hell are you talking about? frankieallen Jul 2016 #75

About how Microsoft has way too much influence here scscholar Jul 2016 #80

Why would Microsoft not want people to have fast internet? frankieallen Jul 2016 #81

Not in my back yard = NIMBY scscholar Jul 2016 #84

It would be interesting to see stats on that TheFarseer Jul 2016 #5

Off shoring offers many many great Tax Avoidance schemes FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #8

The internet sales are the same as off shoring. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #10

Yes but the internet doesn't offer Tax incentives FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #11

I do not care about the tax incentives right now. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #13

Actually I only buy items not locally available off the internet FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #15

Nope. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #9

The internet is not going anywhere and globalization isn't going to recede. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #12

Every dayum business profits .... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #25

I think someone like Trump could do a number on globalization since it is partly the result pampango Jul 2016 #48

I know, I really miss having to go downtown to the travel agent to plan a vacation, Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #16

No joke. +1. Hoyt Jul 2016 #52

Ha! Excellent point. I *love* being able to plan every detail of my vacations myself. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #65

I would rather plan my own vacation on the Internet. frankieallen Jul 2016 #77

yes, but at the same time it helps a lot of people make money who otherwise JI7 Jul 2016 #17

Sorry JI7 sheshe2 Jul 2016 #20

Because it's not zero sum, is JI7's point Recursion Jul 2016 #42

here in hawaii we buy many things off the internet because they are NOT available msongs Jul 2016 #19

Hey, msongs. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #23

I was trying mercuryblues Jul 2016 #21

this is where the travel agents can help JI7 Jul 2016 #29

I can't remember the last time I bought a product that has or used to have a sales person. X_Digger Jul 2016 #26

i think sales people use to be better about knowing what they JI7 Jul 2016 #28

False sheshe2 Jul 2016 #31

Some salespeople are well informed and trained SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #82

Hey Dig. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #30

Oh look, a straw man. Did you stuff it yourself, or did it come pre-stuffed? X_Digger Jul 2016 #61

How much should you make on commission? Lonusca Jul 2016 #67

what is taking middle class jobs are stocking frames, spinning frames and power looms Albertoo Jul 2016 #27

.50 Cent raise to $10.50 and many business owners are highly upset Iliyah Jul 2016 #32

Yes. Thanks Iliyah. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #33

Here in Los Angeles companies like Target and majority of the big grocery stores Iliyah Jul 2016 #35

Hey.............. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #36

LOL!! The middle class job losses started even before Al Gore invented the internets. madinmaryland Jul 2016 #34

I just ordered a new power adapter and battery from Amazon .. very cheap but, they're going back. YOHABLO Jul 2016 #38

When did you lose your job, Sheshe2? Scootaloo Jul 2016 #40

It's a combination of factors Sherman A1 Jul 2016 #43

You are so correct. kacekwl Jul 2016 #55

If it's too complicated to fit on a baseball cap, then I'm voting for Trump. pampango Jul 2016 #57

You could afford a middle class life on a retail salesperson job's salary? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #44

It depends on how far back you go TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #59

I did that in the 80's for a little while bhikkhu Jul 2016 #88

Greed-driven profit is kicking humanity's ass. HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #46

Ummmmm...... you think that "greed-driven profit" has only been around since 1971? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #66

I love how that's in quotes . . . like it doesn't exist . . . HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #90

or use the Internet to your advantage madville Jul 2016 #49

That is a good point. The internet allows a lot of people to sell art, music, consulting services, Hoyt Jul 2016 #53

Change happens more quickly these days madville Jul 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #50

what is killing the middleclass are american consumers....those who shop at walmart beachbum bob Jul 2016 #56

If people didn't have a preference for shopping online, online selling wouldn't be taking over. WillowTree Jul 2016 #58

also include understating what the concept is. i see some articles using borderline... JanMichael Jul 2016 #60

There's lots of manufacturing labor done in the US - by robots, which equals 0 jobs. Zen Democrat Jul 2016 #63

Not zero 1939 Jul 2016 #70

Retail/"sales" jobs have not been "middle class jobs" for a long time. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #72

P.S., You want to know why I shop online? GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #74

Judging from the OP and the first sub-thread -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #73

Death of a salesman GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #79

Think how many farm jobs there would be if we didn't have tractors and combines RB TexLa Jul 2016 #85

I remembered being so excited when the phylny Jul 2016 #89