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74. Not talking about confiscation, future sales and maybe buy-backs like I heard they

Sun Jul 3, 2016, 05:24 PM

Jul 2016

did in Australia. If we had a background check on all gun sales you wouldn't need to confiscate them at least we would know
who was buying the existing ones from this point on. If it saves 1 life it would be worth the inconvenience to gun owners.

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Simple Gun Control Law [View all] louis c Jul 2016 OP

No one has the Constitutional right to own or buy a car. former9thward Jul 2016 #1

What do you think the "Well Regulated" part of the second amendment means? louis c Jul 2016 #8

It means in good working order TeddyR Jul 2016 #13

Exactly right. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #14

It means the militia is in good working order, not the guns. baldguy Jul 2016 #48

If you had actually researched it you would not have written guillaumeb Jul 2016 #99

Enlighten me TeddyR Jul 2016 #102

Only you can come to enlightenment. eom guillaumeb Jul 2016 #113

In order for a "militia" deathrind Jul 2016 #101

It means that your weapon is the same type and caliber of those issued to the active military. oneshooter Jul 2016 #17

so, the average citizen should be able to own a tank, louis c Jul 2016 #18

Those are considered to be crew served weapons. oneshooter Jul 2016 #20

The guns on tanks have to be made unusable before a civilian can buy one jmowreader Jul 2016 #23

Incorrect sarisataka Jul 2016 #24

I rebuild, repair and restore WW2 era armored vehicles. oneshooter Jul 2016 #27

How about a newly-manufactured minigun? Orrex Jul 2016 #49

In fact I have one of these in my shop. oneshooter Jul 2016 #21

Nuclear weapons are controlled sarisataka Jul 2016 #22

Discriminate vs indiscriminate weapons Reiyuki Jul 2016 #29

How do you propose banning explosives? FBaggins Jul 2016 #58

Well, you basically can't, Reiyuki Jul 2016 #69

it was the original intent Amishman Jul 2016 #40

But 22 caliber is much too high power for a citzen to won... scscholar Jul 2016 #31

????? oneshooter Jul 2016 #34

Nothing. It's an explanation, not a qualification. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #56

Actually, the 4th ammendment probably covers it quaker bill Jul 2016 #103

Some think edhopper Jul 2016 #2

By law anyone 18-45 is part of the militia Press Virginia Jul 2016 #4

That is heavily debated edhopper Jul 2016 #5

It's the law. It's been on the books for 60 years Press Virginia Jul 2016 #35

so you have no problem restricting edhopper Jul 2016 #36

No. I'm just citing the law as it pertains Press Virginia Jul 2016 #41

And there is a debate edhopper Jul 2016 #43

The only debate is among those who ignore what the founders said regarding the militia Press Virginia Jul 2016 #44

Again edhopper Jul 2016 #46

The same thing they said about telephones and computers Press Virginia Jul 2016 #50

So you think the founders believed in edhopper Jul 2016 #51

The militia was the "whole of the people" Press Virginia Jul 2016 #52

And yet edhopper Jul 2016 #54

Uhhh no Press Virginia Jul 2016 #64

Males ages 18-45 edhopper Jul 2016 #73

False. Press Virginia Jul 2016 #75

You need edhopper Jul 2016 #76

See Heller Press Virginia Jul 2016 #98

Not according to edhopper Jul 2016 #100

He only needs a license and registration to drive on publics roads Press Virginia Jul 2016 #3

Don't need to register a car to own or keep on private property hack89 Jul 2016 #6

I made that distimction in my analogy louis c Jul 2016 #9

You can buy unregistered cars hack89 Jul 2016 #10

Most states excise cars, though, so it would need a title (nt) Recursion Jul 2016 #26

Hence the bill of sale. nt hack89 Jul 2016 #30

Soooo.... linuxman Jul 2016 #7

Exactly. Straw Man Jul 2016 #11

To continue the analogy sarisataka Jul 2016 #12

And any damage done while using the weapon in violation of the law will be called an "accident" (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #45

Works for me. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #15

I can cross statelines and legally purchase any firearm I want... Heeeeers Johnny Jul 2016 #53

Several years ago my car was seized by the police because the registration was expired ansible Jul 2016 #16

Keep it off the roads. Igel Jul 2016 #19

It doesn't need to be registered to be sold. It needs to be titled Recursion Jul 2016 #25

Eleven Things Congress Could Do On Guns yallerdawg Jul 2016 #28

There are no weapons of war on American streets TeddyR Jul 2016 #55

Ironically... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #60

I stand corrected TeddyR Jul 2016 #63

No weapons of war on our streets? yallerdawg Jul 2016 #65

What "weapon of war" has been used in the US in a terrorist attack or mass shooting? TeddyR Jul 2016 #66

"Designed to create mass casualties." yallerdawg Jul 2016 #67

What right wing NRA talking point did I use TeddyR Jul 2016 #97

They won't Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #105

Limitless NRA talking points! (Happy Fourth of July!) yallerdawg Jul 2016 #108

In my experience when someone says they want guns "off the street" they mean "not in civilian hands" Just reading posts Jul 2016 #62

2016 Democratic Party Platform Draft yallerdawg Jul 2016 #68

Where it says "keep weapons of war—such as assault weapons—off our streets" do you think it's Just reading posts Jul 2016 #70

You had it right. yallerdawg Jul 2016 #71

Saying "off the streets" is weasel-wording. If you want to ban or confiscate them, just say so. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #72

That poster will not bother to read that Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #81

One does what one can. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #82

I know Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #83

Good thing my AR is not a weapon of war Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #79

They use the phrase "weapon of war" as if that, in and of itself, means something should be Just reading posts Jul 2016 #84

And they refuse to accept simple facts Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #85

I've noticed that. Correcting an obvious mistake or even asking for a clarification is dismissed Just reading posts Jul 2016 #87

with 1 million in insurance Skittles Jul 2016 #32

$2 million liability sarisataka Jul 2016 #33

Would you be opposed Abq_Sarah Jul 2016 #37

All cars are unregistered when you buy them... ileus Jul 2016 #38

Awesome idea -- then I can have as many unregistered machine guns as I want on my property aikoaiko Jul 2016 #39

I understand a person can own a fully automatic weopon or tank ect. if you get a special permit. Why doc03 Jul 2016 #42

At least 50% of firearms (probably more) have detachable magazines. The wisdom (or not) of banning Just reading posts Jul 2016 #59

Not talking about confiscation, future sales and maybe buy-backs like I heard they doc03 Jul 2016 #74

"buy-backs" that aren't optional are confiscation discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #77

Did I say buy-backs were mandatory? n/t doc03 Jul 2016 #88

You said like Australia n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #89

The report I heard on Australia never said it was mandatory. n/t doc03 Jul 2016 #92

It's cool, no problem discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #96

The Australian "buy back" was confiscation. Gun owners were told to turn over their guns Just reading posts Jul 2016 #80

What sales without background checks? Require them on all sales, doc03 Jul 2016 #90

The millions of them that will be done by the simple expedience of ignoring the law. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #94

Australia was defacto confiscation Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #86

I didn't realize that. I have heard they worked well in Australia but the report didn't doc03 Jul 2016 #91

I can assure you, the Australian government was mandatory. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #95

And crickets for a response Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #104

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #107

Well what is your solution to stop a nut from buying a doc03 Jul 2016 #109

Well, let's see Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #110

Well WTF did you start arguing about whether the Australian law was doc03 Jul 2016 #111

See post 95, it was a compulsory buyback Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #112

Well if you have all the answers what would you do to help doc03 Jul 2016 #93

Why not demand a permit for demanding permits? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #78

A sane country edhopper Jul 2016 #47

If you don't like guns, don't buy one (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #57

Choice is a good thing (nt) Just reading posts Jul 2016 #61

People who don't like gunz, don't like a toting yahoo standing next to them and Hoyt Jul 2016 #106