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RainDog

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9. I think it's more complicated than that
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

There are big special interest groups that do not want their revenue streams interrupted.

The way to counter this, imo, is to note how racist the application of mj laws are across the nation - this case was not about stop and frisk policies, etc - though those policies wouldn't exist w/o the law as it is. Michelle Alexander has done a good job creating the case that these laws are The New Jim Crow. We already know, via the crack vs. coke sentencing issues, that racism is applied regularly regarding various drug laws. We need to appeal to the basic sense of justice that should exist, if it doesn't, among lawmakers - to see this policy in regard to its outcomes, not their fears.

They need to do a cost/benefit analysis about the outcomes for marijuana use vs. arrest and all the consequences that follow. I know one teenager whose life would've been forever changed if he had been busted in Hawaii for something so many others did, as well.

Taxpayers have to let the govt know that we do not want them to put tax money toward something that people view as a valid substitute or adjunct medicine for the treatment of things like epilepsy, MS, CP, side effects of chemotherapy and HIV drugs, migraines, neuropathy, rheumatoid arthritis... the self interests of Americans, in regard to their health, matters too.

But we live in a culture that has specific guidelines for medicines developed to do as little harm as possible. So that makes it possible to discard marijuana when it is already illegal. If it were not illegal and all these uses were known - it would be sold as an herb in a health food store and doctors could recommend it without the need for its categorization as "medicine."

We know various herbs are medicine - some aren't - sometimes ppl make outrageous claims - but some herbs do, in fact, have beneficial health effects and doctors can and do mention them to patients as an alternative - valerian root instead of valium, for instance.

...which gets to another special interest group that lobbies against change - those folks making the valium, not growing valerian in their yards, or stopping at the health good store for a cheaper, less overpowering version of something.

And then there's the alcoholic beverage industry. Medically, this one doesn't matter, but no doubt this group does not want to face legal competition for its product.

Powerful lobbying groups don't give up a fight easily.

In spite of that, however, public perception is changing - and some politicians are smart enough to make use of this - Cuomo recently, for instance - I think it's easier at the state level because state pols can gauge voter sentiment.

After enough state-level laws change - the federal govt just can't continue to justify its stance.

That's how prohibition ended, too.

Pure jury nullification here alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #1
Jury nullification, indeed. Especially since this administration lacks the spine to do the peoples' villager Jun 2012 #3
Exactly!!! "this administration lacks the spine to do the peoples' will," n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #5
I think it's more complicated than that RainDog Jun 2012 #9
Thanks for this very thoughtful reply. Very well said and I agree 100%! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #10
You make a few good points - but readers of truedelphi Jun 2012 #17
what administration? RainDog Jun 2012 #23
the detail about ordering Med M from UK truedelphi Jun 2012 #25
oh. I didn't understand at first RainDog Jun 2012 #29
MMJ was perking up rentals of empty storefronts in my working class L.A. neighborhood, too villager Jun 2012 #44
You wanna know a really sad sad story? truedelphi Jun 2012 #47
Yup -- change and hope? Not so much. Alas. villager Jun 2012 #48
that is such an injustice RainDog Jun 2012 #49
That is an excellent thing to hear about. truedelphi Jun 2012 #50
Great response, however, I do have to take issue with this statement MagickMuffin Jun 2012 #20
oh, no doubt. RainDog Jun 2012 #22
Exactly correct people need reeducation about Cannabis MagickMuffin Jun 2012 #24
I think the internet has made it possible to catapult the propaganda RainDog Jun 2012 #30
Back in the 70's it was such a taboo about its effectiveness with cancer treatment MagickMuffin Jun 2012 #39
little-known fact: big corporations were against prohibition, and had a big role in ending it. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #36
Yes. DuPont was against prohibition b/c he feared it would raise his taxes RainDog Jun 2012 #38
You win the thread. Thanks! freshwest Jun 2012 #46
11 women, 1 man RainDog Jun 2012 #7
Yep, I wish I was on that jury. joshcryer Jun 2012 #31
GREAT news! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2012 #2
I hope she can sue them Politicalboi Jun 2012 #4
Great news! El Paso jury rocks. roody Jun 2012 #6
Jury nullification is a wonderful thing bluestateguy Jun 2012 #8
Good. That should end Colorado's involvment in dealing against MMJ. Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #11
Good. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #12
"police used a $7 million Department of Homeland Security surveillance plane" Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #13
Meanwhile, schools are beig shut down. Free truedelphi Jun 2012 #26
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Ashley96 Jun 2012 #14
Our incompetent police state at work: girl gone mad Jun 2012 #15
That is why, we the taxpayers of Colorado, demand our money back Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #16
Go, Colorado taxpayers, Go! n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #27
The DA should definitely be fired. joshcryer Jun 2012 #33
+ 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #18
Were they breaking the law? YOHABLO Jun 2012 #19
Regulated? Now there is a word that makes me laugh OL... truedelphi Jun 2012 #28
Thank you. +1. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #35
new poll indicates Colorado likely to legalize this election cycle RainDog Jun 2012 #21
I live in El Paso Country. This is where Colorado Springs is. The Christian Mecca of the USA. joshcryer Jun 2012 #32
Yep... kentuck Jun 2012 #34
Just say no to evangelical meth heads! RainDog Jun 2012 #37
Their influence is dwindling, imo. There are a lot of new age churches here as well as... joshcryer Jun 2012 #40
In the end the L/E will get what they want Meiko Jun 2012 #41
You read it wrong. Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #42
Doooh! Meiko Jun 2012 #51
Yes he SHOULD be ashamed, but he's not DiverDave Jun 2012 #45
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #43
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