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Lithos

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64. Lee was a good general

Sun Jul 3, 2016, 08:50 PM

Jul 2016

He was a great organizer and a great advocate for his troops.

During Gettysburg he was sick and he was starting to suffer from the cardio issues which would ultimately kill him. This affected his judgement tremendously. One of his greatest strengths was giving his subordinates a significant amount of latitude in their actions. Unfortunately one of them, JEB Stuart, took advantage of this and went off out of control depriving Lee of his intelligence about the location and strength of the Union Army - which led to Gettysburg.

As for TOTAL war - if that is your criteria - then Gen. Forrest did this better than Sherman who came across as a dullard. Also understand that Sherman would have failed had it not been for Gen. Thomas who with only a corps protected Sherman's supply lines by out maneuvering the Confederate Army of Tennessee and annihilating it at the Battle of Nashville. If Hood had been up against a lesser General then it might have been a Union disaster.

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153 years ago today the U.S. smashed the Rebel traitors at Gettysburg [View all] bluestateguy Jul 2016 OP

50,000 casualties. Ilsa Jul 2016 #1

Where? Is there an address? underpants Jul 2016 #2

you should be ashamed edhopper Jul 2016 #46

I've scored this a 4 underpants Jul 2016 #49

please edhopper Jul 2016 #51

I am simply the son of forth fathers underpants Jul 2016 #52

I think the Confederates were really rebelling against the neoliberal economic policies of pampango Jul 2016 #3

There was nothing "new" about it and not "Neo liberal" in the European usage of the term. gordianot Jul 2016 #60

I heard on some right-wing radio show that Gettysburg was a false flag packman Jul 2016 #4

In the "West" the siege of Vicksburg ended the same day for Grant DonP Jul 2016 #5

Yep TeddyR Jul 2016 #17

And Vicksburg, Mississippi refused to celebrate July 4 for another 82 years MohRokTah Jul 2016 #45

My family's farm was (and is) right there. Avalux Jul 2016 #6

I've been to the area and you can still feel that a terrible tragedy took place there Warpy Jul 2016 #28

Rebranding the Union as a Progressive force for good is amusing Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #7

ok... eShirl Jul 2016 #35

Gleefully extolling the death of thousands of people is sick AwareOne Jul 2016 #8

The OP meant "rebels willing to kill Americans to 'preserve the blessings of African slavery'" (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #10

+100! Well said! scarletwoman Jul 2016 #65

"No Treason in Civil War" Orrex Jul 2016 #11

how dare you disrupt their comfortable narratives of moral superiority?! n/t zazen Jul 2016 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Odin2005 Jul 2016 #21

Opposing a regime that glorifies Slavery and White Supremacy is always morally superior. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #23

+1 n/t Matrosov Jul 2016 #39

I feel quite comfortable describing the Union as morally superior in that conflict. Marr Jul 2016 #55

Fuck that, Davis should have been shot as soon as he was captured. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #18

^^^^ This ^^^^ XRubicon Jul 2016 #20

Hanged, not shot The Second Stone Jul 2016 #27

^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #30

Well, I do think Davis should have been given a fair trial bluestateguy Jul 2016 #63

Under Article III section 3, it was Treason. NutmegYankee Jul 2016 #26

And you have Robert E. Lee to thank for that pacification localroger Jul 2016 #31

Lee was a very honorable individual, which is why even the North respected him. NutmegYankee Jul 2016 #34

He put his wife's dress on to avoid capture XRubicon Jul 2016 #29

The slaves were treated far worse. yardwork Jul 2016 #32

I'm sorry, who the fucked fired on Fort Sumter? The Confederates started an illegal war... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #40

Pickett kinda kicked his own ass Scientific Jul 2016 #9

While Pickett probably had his share of arrogance 1939 Jul 2016 #14

After Fredericksburg TeddyR Jul 2016 #19

You don't charge straight up a mountainside 1939 Jul 2016 #44

There were abolitionists in the South, and Pro-slavers in the North... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #13

Yeah TeddyR Jul 2016 #22

Of course neither side was 100% blameless LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #15

The 1st Minnesota FTW! Odin2005 Jul 2016 #16

We still have the flag sarisataka Jul 2016 #24

Yes we do! It's ours, now, Slaver scum! Odin2005 Jul 2016 #25

Loved that dust-up. Brickbat Jul 2016 #48

Most Northerners didn't care a hoot about slaves. and they raccoon Jul 2016 #33

The State that holds the record for the most Black Men lynched in one day is.... bvar22 Jul 2016 #36

Moral superiority is what gets some people through the night. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #38

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Do you not believe .... Adrahil Jul 2016 #42

I do believe that. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #50

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What the fuck do YOU think? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #56

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Can you repost the part where I said "I'm alright with slavery"? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #58

No XRubicon Jul 2016 #43

And now they're everywhere. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #37

The day Lee showed he wasn't a great general. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #47

Disagree with your choice of Sherman... Lithos Jul 2016 #54

At least we can agree Lee was not a great general. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #61

Lee was a good general Lithos Jul 2016 #64

Your choice of vocabulary is incendiary... Lithos Jul 2016 #59

And I keep seeing here that the South continues to fight the Civil War Ishoutandscream2 Jul 2016 #62

ask people in the South who won edhopper Jul 2016 #66

There's Dixie Shitheads everywhere these days SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #67

Whoosh, right over your head Ishoutandscream2 Jul 2016 #68

no edhopper Jul 2016 #71

And I will ask Ishoutandscream2 Jul 2016 #69

Not my expedience edhopper Jul 2016 #70