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DreamGypsy

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31. The Star Spangled Banner commemorates a dispute over empire
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jun 2012

The Star Spangled banner was written in 1814 during the War 0f 18112, after the battle of Battle of Fort McHenry. The ambitions of the United States in that war were not for independence, but for empire.

From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):

The War of 1812 was a military conflict fought between the forces of the United States of America and those of the British Empire. The Americans declared war in 1812 for several reasons, including trade restrictions brought about by Britain's ongoing war with France, the impressment of American merchant sailors into the Royal Navy, British support of American Indian tribes against American expansion, outrage over insults to national honour after humiliations on the high seas and possible American desire to annex Canada.[3] Tied down in Europe until 1814, the British at first used defensive strategy, repelling multiple American invasions of the provinces of Upper and Lower Canada. However, the Americans gained control over Lake Erie in 1813, seized parts of western Ontario, and ended the prospect of an Indian confederacy and an independent Indian state in the Midwest under British sponsorship. In the Southwest, General Andrew Jackson destroyed the military strength of the Creek nation at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend in 1814. With the defeat of Napoleon in 1814, the British adopted a more aggressive strategy, sending in three large invasion armies. The British victory at the Battle of Bladensburg in August 1814 allowed them to capture and burn Washington, D.C. American victories in September 1814 and January 1815 repulsed all three British invasions in New York, Baltimore and New Orleans.


This war was a battle of two major nations to maintain or extend their empires. A side effect of the war was allowing the United States to begin westward expansion in earnest, displacing Native Americans.

Again from Wikipedia:

Historians generally agree that the real losers of the War of 1812 were the Indians (called "First Nations" in Canada). American settlers into the Middle West had been repeatedly blocked and threatened by Indian raids before 1812, and that now came to an end. Throughout the war the British had played on terror of the tomahawks and scalping knives of their Indian allies; it worked especially at Hull's surrender at Detroit. By 1813 Americans had killed Tecumseh and broken his coalition of tribes. Jackson then defeated the enemy Indians in the Southwest. At the peace conference the British demanded an independent Indian state in the Midwest, but by late 1814 the British-Indian alliance had been defeated militarily and the British had to abandon the demand. The withdrawal of British protection gave the Americans a free hand, which resulted in the removal of most of the tribes to Indian Territory (present-day Oklahoma). In that sense according to historian Alan Taylor, the final victory at New Orleans had "enduring and massive consequences." It gave the Americans "continental predominance" while it left the Indians dispossessed, powerless, and vulnerable.


This chapter of my country's history is not one in which I take pride.


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This is what they do: stir up culture war crap to whip up Middle America types bluestateguy Jun 2012 #1
I prefer This Land is Your Land. n/t Ian David Jun 2012 #2
can't have that...written by a communist... CTyankee Jun 2012 #23
They like the Pledge of Allegiance kskiska Jun 2012 #24
And besides that, it's NOT. Your land, that is. Bake Jun 2012 #25
Bill has a great show on CURRENT in the morning. Maybe he's cutting into their ratings..n/t monmouth Jun 2012 #3
i hope so, tis a joy to hear. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2012 #8
The phrase "at it AGAIN" implies that they stopped at some point KurtNYC Jun 2012 #4
LOL! Point well taken! ;) n/t markpkessinger Jun 2012 #5
Stop the Crazy People a smart liberal Jun 2012 #9
So "Pro-American" Politicalboi Jun 2012 #6
not only is press right, he is NOT backing down. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2012 #7
The tune is an old English drinking song, and it's hard to sing. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #10
That's actually not correct - the drinking song part at least whopis01 Jun 2012 #14
Nevertheless, I'll bet they usually got drunk to sing it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #19
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution??? DreamGypsy Jun 2012 #11
I enjoy the Olympics ... GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #12
I do like the SSB but SoutherDem Jun 2012 #13
Speaking of war songs, ever hear the Irish national anthem? brendan120678 Jun 2012 #18
Well, the U.S. *was* borne out of wars SaB2012 Jun 2012 #20
I'd warrant that the poster's concern was aligned LanternWaste Jun 2012 #22
Yes, that is what I was saying SoutherDem Jun 2012 #28
I am not questioning the fact that we were borne out of war. SoutherDem Jun 2012 #27
I prefer the SSB Marooned Jun 2012 #15
The Star Spangled Banner at its' base is about nothing but war, idolism and jingoism Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #16
Just another in Fox's long line of non issues proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #17
The Star Spangled Banner pays tribute to those who gave their lives to defend our fledgling nation SaB2012 Jun 2012 #21
It's a tribute to those who fought for independence from a despotic British king... pacalo Jun 2012 #26
No offense, but SaB2012 Jun 2012 #30
Actually, it was your post that drifted away from the main point of the OP. pacalo Jun 2012 #32
The Star Spangled Banner commemorates a dispute over empire DreamGypsy Jun 2012 #31
Back in the '30's when there was a competition......... mrmpa Jun 2012 #29
Bill responded on his radio show: alp227 Jun 2012 #33
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