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LostOne4Ever

(9,767 posts)
64. I feel they should have brought up their issues with pride before the parade
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jul 2016

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=3 color=#009999]Many of their requests were reasonable and had they brought them up they could have addressed them without interrupting the event or sewing disunity.

How would BLM feel if its own African American LGBTQ members interrupted one of their events or a black pride type event to protest the bigotry of LGBTQ people in the African American Community? All of these things are for good causes and there should at least be an effort to work together.

That said, with regards to the requests by BLM I feel request #8 is mistaken. There are gay law enforcement officers and to tell them they can't have a float or wear their uniforms on their own float defeats the whole point of pride. To show that LGBTQ people have value, to be proud of who one is in face of adversity. To show that LGBTQ people are a part of culture and have jobs, lives, and loved ones just like anyone else.

Police officers, just like black people and the LGBTQ community are all apart of are culture. They all have value and the intersectionality between all three should be celebrated.

I can't help but feel this controversy plays right into the hands of those who oppose both BLM and Pride. It sets groups against themselves. Pride should by all means be cognizant of the issues black and trans-people face and address that. They could, for example, possibly do this by making sure the floats are significantly separated, or other similar actions. But, it shouldn't shut down all law-enforcement representation, and should have given pride a chance to fix these things before protesting.

The only way to beat the bigots is to work together. Allies in law enforcement speaking out can help both groups. It can help fight against LGBTQ bigotry that exists in our police departments and gives support to passing reforms to end violence by police against the black community.

We are all stronger together than apart. Always.[/font]

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I read the demands and they all, except one, seemed reasonable... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #1
If the demands are reasonable, why not present them to the organizers Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #2
That I don't have an answer for, it doesn't sound like that actual acts were reasonable... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #3
shutting down the parade was unreasonable Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #4
Why? KMOD Jul 2016 #5
I would say they were only unreasonable if the Pride organizers had no notice of the demands in... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #6
Showboating? KMOD Jul 2016 #9
I don't know what's happened behind the scenes, but, if the Pride organizers knew of the demands... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #12
I'm just not of mind to call action to address KMOD Jul 2016 #13
I agree. Chemisse Jul 2016 #29
Okay, so it would be alright for them or a different group R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #38
They were black LGBT members, KMOD Jul 2016 #39
LOL. The hairs we split in order to justify our ends. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #45
I'm just shaking my head at your KMOD Jul 2016 #46
I posed a question, and you evaded the answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #47
Are you opposed to groups protesting at the Dem Convention? Dems2002 Jul 2016 #56
If it shuts down the convention? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #62
uniformed police, not police in general. KMOD Jul 2016 #7
But that's what we would want, uniformed police marching side by side with groups... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #8
Again, I think it keeps the dialogue open. KMOD Jul 2016 #10
I don't see how shutting official police participation out of the event entirely is keeping the... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #11
It certainly has people talking, no? KMOD Jul 2016 #14
The issue is, what could possibly be the reason for such a demand? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #15
Their legitimate concern of facing KMOD Jul 2016 #16
Then have a dialogue with the police Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #17
There are black people who are LGBT KMOD Jul 2016 #18
Right melman Jul 2016 #24
There are black people who are LGBT cops! XemaSab Jul 2016 #35
Nope. KMOD Jul 2016 #36
Are they being mistreated by the police participating in the parade? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #19
It's much more than a parade. KMOD Jul 2016 #21
Maybe BLM thinks the police are the ones showboating by turning up to "perform" their tblue37 Jul 2016 #26
re : https://twitter.com/BLM_TO DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #20
I'll defer to our Canadian DUers, KMOD Jul 2016 #22
My favorite comment on the article. JanMichael Jul 2016 #23
ugh! I usually avoid the comments sections like the plague, KMOD Jul 2016 #25
I'm sorry, no metroins Jul 2016 #28
I'm straight, KMOD Jul 2016 #30
If anything metroins Jul 2016 #32
They weren't attacking their allies. KMOD Jul 2016 #33
LBGTQ community should disrupt every Black History Month Celebration AllTooEasy Jul 2016 #27
That wouldn't make any sense. KMOD Jul 2016 #31
It should be BLM that does it. Behind the Aegis Jul 2016 #57
Another BLM attention seeking charade yawn romanic Jul 2016 #34
It really saddens me to see folks on a liberal, progressive board, KMOD Jul 2016 #37
Because they frequently act like a bunch of assholes? Ace Rothstein Jul 2016 #40
^^^^ KMOD Jul 2016 #41
Pride Toronto is backing away from the promises made to Black Lives Matter Toronto King_David Jul 2016 #42
Yup. Here's hoping the community is smarter KMOD Jul 2016 #43
Seriously ? Mathieu Chantelois is our rep. King_David Jul 2016 #44
Yup. And he's a white, gay man who is caving to the mob rule, KMOD Jul 2016 #48
And who are you to judge an LGBTQ leader? King_David Jul 2016 #49
FFS, we actually agree on something. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #51
. King_David Jul 2016 #52
Are you black? KMOD Jul 2016 #54
Straightsplaining gets tiresome. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #60
You know, I've been holding back, but I'm officially pissed off now. yardwork Jul 2016 #63
If I may... Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #65
Thanks. yardwork Jul 2016 #67
I don't believe I have disparaged KMOD Jul 2016 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Jul 2016 #50
I am done with them. dilby Jul 2016 #53
What do you believe the Black Lives Matter movement cause is? KMOD Jul 2016 #55
I'm no "friend" of the police but I will say this in support of police at Pride parades justiceischeap Jul 2016 #58
I am gay and you are correct. yardwork Jul 2016 #61
BLM has degenerated into just another extremist "kill all pigs" group Odin2005 Jul 2016 #59
Can you provide evidence to support your claim? KMOD Jul 2016 #68
Their utter hatred of the idea of uniformed police in the parade? Odin2005 Jul 2016 #69
I feel they should have brought up their issues with pride before the parade LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #64
+1 AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #70
Screw BLM. I'm done defending them. How dare they do this so soon after Pulse... ashtonelijah Jul 2016 #71
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