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maxsolomon

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10. "No True Scotsman"

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:52 PM

Jul 2016

the Baghdad bombing & Bangladesh bakery attack should disturb the hell out of him, and everyone. How money is to be made off of that slaughter is beyond me - but I understand why he'd prefer to consider ISIL a criminal gang.

the Sunni Islamists' goals are largely unchanged, and the Bangladeshi Terrorists stated them very clearly: separate Islam and the West. Make any Islamic nation off-limits to Westerners; bomb airports, restaurants, tourist sites, airplanes. Make travel there simply not worth it. They believe that Observant Islam is only weakened by exposure to other cultures, other religions, other customs. Particularly Secular Cultures. Plus, they hate Shiites.

the Jiddah Bombing I have no explanation for - at Mohammed's Tomb, no less. A warning to the Sauds? Houthi revenge for destroying Yemen? Suicide bombings aren't a typical Shiite tactic.

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