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20. And some of us don't like corporate spin every time

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:28 PM

Jul 2016

we question what we are eating, drinking, and breathing.

I have repeatedly seen inexcusable mockery and derision on this board the past few years. It is the kind of button-pushing tactics that are meant to shut down any meaningful discussion about an issue that many people find very important. We hardly expect everyone to agree on the same things, but at a site like Democratic Underground, we do not expect to be ridiculed non-stop whenever we bring up issues like pesticides, herbicides, factory farming, GMOs, and companies like Monsanto. It is like being on a grade school playground all over again, except people on DU are well-read and well informed.

I usually do check out the few links that GMO apologists post and research their sources, but I can't say that they do the same with the links others post questioning companies like Monsanto and the products they develop and produce.

I want to know what is in the food I eat and I want to make the decisions about what I eat and don't eat. I don't think that is unreasonable. I am old to remember when food products did not have to list ingredients and corporations fought tooth and nail laws that would require such labeling. It sounded a lot like what we are hearing today.

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Monsanto's Mommy Bloggers and Clandestine Spies [View all] womanofthehills Jul 2016 OP

GMO corporate perversion of science has totally undermined public confidence Scientific Jul 2016 #1

Good point. Consider how many people are convinced homeopathy and chemtrails are nonsense. Major Nikon Jul 2016 #4

Call your senators to voice your opinion Even if they voted against the DARK act last Person 2713 Jul 2016 #2

Monsanto controls the GMO debate according to Big-Organic� paid puppets Major Nikon Jul 2016 #3

Kevin Folta - Roundup is his favorite drink womanofthehills Jul 2016 #7

When your nonsense is debunked, just repeat it from a different source Major Nikon Jul 2016 #8

Here is $25,000 for whatever you want Kevin - Love, Monsanto womanofthehills Jul 2016 #9

How many times do you usually have to throw against the wall before it sticks? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #10

They have to repeat fiction as often as possible in order to convince some that it's not fiction. HuckleB Jul 2016 #18

Wait. Don't Monsanto, BASF, Bayer, Dow, Dupont and Sygenta also sell Non-GMO products? progressoid Jul 2016 #5

K&R PatSeg Jul 2016 #6

3 out of every 4 grocery stores now carry organic including Walmart womanofthehills Jul 2016 #11

I am seeing more and more organic PatSeg Jul 2016 #12

No is making fun of anything. Some of us don't like fictions being passed as fact. HuckleB Jul 2016 #19

And some of us don't like corporate spin every time PatSeg Jul 2016 #20

Referring to a consensus of science as "corporate spin" doesn't make it so. HuckleB Jul 2016 #21

Conspiracy theory nonsense doesn't inform anyone Major Nikon Jul 2016 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #76

I buy local and mostly organic, but certainly not for any health reasons GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #13

Exactly, and many of those seeds the local farmers use your probably sourced from Monsanto itself... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #14

Yes indeed. I'm sure that a few of the locals, the ones who are into 'heirloom' vegetables GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #15

There's a great set of videos by a chemist on youtube called Myles Power... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #16

Definitely will check him out. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #17

Oh, the OP is a huge fan and follower of "The Food Babe". As if her credibility can't be... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #24

So taking antiobiotics and chemicals out of foods according to you is Woo womanofthehills Jul 2016 #25

"taking chemicals out of foods" Major Nikon Jul 2016 #27

The "Food Babe" philosophy is, "if I can't pronounce the ingredient its bad for you!"... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #29

Also "Mercola said so" Major Nikon Jul 2016 #39

So you have no problem with human antibiotics in your food? womanofthehills Jul 2016 #53

Depends on whether they survive to be ingested by me. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #55

Actually, the "Food Babe" philosophy is I don't want antibiotics in my food womanofthehills Jul 2016 #57

Well, then she can retire. HuckleB Jul 2016 #59

�There is just no acceptable level of any chemical to ingest, ever� Major Nikon Jul 2016 #63

Does any of that shit actually make the food healthier? No, it does not, all you have shown... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #28

Actually, I really don't want human antibiotics in my food!! womanofthehills Jul 2016 #54

Unless you are eating humans, there are no "human antibiotics" in your food Major Nikon Jul 2016 #82

I don't know how they get away PatSeg Jul 2016 #30

What issues? That's the problem, when you make up shit on the fly to prop... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #38

No personal attacks or flaming Major Nikon Jul 2016 #40

Definitely projection big time! womanofthehills Jul 2016 #48

... Major Nikon Jul 2016 #60

I do wonder how so much pseudoscience gets a pass here. HuckleB Jul 2016 #42

I think its because it skirts the conspiracy theory line, but not quite crosses it... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #45

True enough. HuckleB Jul 2016 #50

OMG! You are the one always sourcing Science-Based Medicine womanofthehills Jul 2016 #64

Do you have any evidence for this accusation, and are you saying girls... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #66

I'm saying a male doctor pretending to be a mommy blogger womanofthehills Jul 2016 #78

Oh, no! I source a science-based page that you can't debunk in any way! HuckleB Jul 2016 #68

Kinda funny how you stopped claiming Keith Kloor is in bed with Monsanto Major Nikon Jul 2016 #77

Do you mean this one womanofthehills Jul 2016 #79

Very telling how you used screen shots rather than posting a link to the actual article Major Nikon Jul 2016 #81

Her efforts are blackmail and based solely on science-y terms. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #84

Maybe they will not kill you but Monsanto is the Great Satan to the poor children in Argentina womanofthehills Jul 2016 #22

Do you have any evidence for the shit you post? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #23

... Major Nikon Jul 2016 #26

That was unnecessarily rude PatSeg Jul 2016 #31

I don't think so, its exasperation more than anything else... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #37

So why do you think 38 countries have banned GMO's - will you say this is not true too? womanofthehills Jul 2016 #47

Evidently PatSeg Jul 2016 #52

Thanks PatSeg womanofthehills Jul 2016 #58

You're very welcome PatSeg Jul 2016 #69

That is exactly what is happening with me - I love to research womanofthehills Jul 2016 #80

"Research." HuckleB Jul 2016 #85

As much as I get frustrated at times PatSeg Jul 2016 #86

All it demonstrates is that politics isn't necessarily driven by evidence, no more, no less.... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #65

Why do you think every regulatory and science advocacy organization on the planet supports GMO? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #83

Please don't talk of rudeness if you're going to ascribe ugly ulterior motives to DUers Major Nikon Jul 2016 #41

Projection! Projection! womanofthehills Jul 2016 #51

... Major Nikon Jul 2016 #61

I spoke very generally PatSeg Jul 2016 #56

So at best you are staying just "this side of the rules" Major Nikon Jul 2016 #62

I've been here for 12 years PatSeg Jul 2016 #70

Your actions above don't match your claims here. HuckleB Jul 2016 #71

Your opinion PatSeg Jul 2016 #72

Nope. HuckleB Jul 2016 #73

Ha, ha, ha PatSeg Jul 2016 #74

So you think children being exposed to pesticide spray is no problem womanofthehills Jul 2016 #32

Devastating Impacts of Glyphosate Use with GMO Seeds in Argentina womanofthehills Jul 2016 #33

Nice scam homeopathy pushing organization you found there. HuckleB Jul 2016 #35

She's been busted many times pushing batshit crazy woo sources Major Nikon Jul 2016 #44

And yet OPs like this get quite a number of likes. HuckleB Jul 2016 #46

Water Remembers! Major Nikon Jul 2016 #43

Again, is there any evidence, or do you like pushing ideology rather than science? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #36

There is a problem when science harms children womanofthehills Jul 2016 #49

Evidence, evidence, evidence, that's what we need, otherwise you are just making shit up. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #67

Don't confuse her! HuckleB Jul 2016 #34