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Nuclear Unicorn

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68. I have read this thread from top to bottom.

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 03:07 PM

Jul 2016

Please take a moment to explain how private citizens exercising their lawful rights overtakes the mind of the police causing the police to kill private citizens who are exercising their lawful rights.

I understand the desire to find something to blame this on. We want to be able to say, "It happened because of X, ergo once we rid ourselves of X then it shall never happen again."

I get it. It's a comforting thought born of grief and good intentions -- but it's also completely useless.

Only 1 thing made the police officer's gun fire, the police officer. What we need to know now is the extent to which he should be held responsible, not "red America," the officer.

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Two more black men cut down in 48 hours. Curse red America's lethal fascination with firearms, [View all] Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 OP

We don't count malaise Jul 2016 #1

How in the world do you keep murderous rage from rising up in your own hearts? Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #2

There's been way too much restraint from the black community malaise Jul 2016 #3

Agree. But, let's pray that when the backlash comes, it's in the courts and legislatures Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #4

How does that happen when malaise Jul 2016 #5

You paint a very dark picture of future possibilities, Malaise. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #9

I agree that technology is facilitating more exposure malaise Jul 2016 #13

So... GummyBearz Jul 2016 #37

Agree in part, but that notion doesn't seem to stop wars. People who don't want minorities to take merrily Jul 2016 #8

Spot on...if only "People" could hear this message: Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #12

In my view, the only time government has taken significant action is when it feared uprisings merrily Jul 2016 #14

Agree that "it's also when assassinations seem to retaliate." Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #22

sorry, I meant assassins. merrily Jul 2016 #27

Not to worry, the meaning was perfectly clear... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #28

You got stuck quoting a mash up. merrily Jul 2016 #29

+1 merrily Jul 2016 #10

We simply want to live the same American dream White Americans live by default KeepItReal Jul 2016 #61

And, I pray that one day you will be able to. In the meantime, just "leaving things be" seems Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #62

As I read elsewhere online earlier today: Orrex Jul 2016 #6

You realize cops in blue states also carry firearms. ileus Jul 2016 #7

I didn't say RED states, I said red America. Red-thinking Americans Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #11

JIM CROWley of the Cambridge, Massachusetts police department comes to mind. merrily Jul 2016 #15

They're EVERYWHERE among us! And, they're damn dangerous. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #16

Cambridge, MA is iconically blue, though. merrily Jul 2016 #17

Minneapolis is "liberal-land", too. Red-mindedness is NOT geographical. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #18

Yes, but Massachusetts was the one and only state to go for McGovern, which was merrily Jul 2016 #19

Agree, MA certainly holds pride of place in the "liberal" pantheon. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #20

If you ask Americans to name THE most liberal state, just one state, I bet eight out of ten say merrily Jul 2016 #21

And both had concealed-carry permits. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #23

Concealed-carrying while black = death sentence. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #24

According to a sentiment sometimes expressed here, only these very same cops should be armed... Marengo Jul 2016 #25

And people why POC don't trust the police... Odin2005 Jul 2016 #26

That's a good reason to promote more guns? Hoyt Jul 2016 #31

It's an argument against the transference of armed power to the racist protectors of the status quo Marengo Jul 2016 #34

Most people arming up nowadays are racists -- whether civilian, police or whatever. Hoyt Jul 2016 #38

How do you define "arming up"? Marengo Jul 2016 #53

Oh bullshit. beevul Jul 2016 #58

I feel like this isn't a red state thing TeddyR Jul 2016 #30

It's a class of people thing HamiltonSwan Jul 2016 #47

+1, I've been saying the 2nd amendment is a whites mostly law uponit7771 Jul 2016 #32

I doubt Sterling had a concealed-carry permit given his criminal record. hack89 Jul 2016 #33

this SpookyDem Jul 2016 #35

As a gun-toting felon, isn't he the type of person the controllers are always demanding... Marengo Jul 2016 #36

Usually someone sarisataka Jul 2016 #56

Yep, I don't see the obligatory gun humping coward post Marengo Jul 2016 #59

It should still bother anyone who believe in concealed carry caraher Jul 2016 #66

Really. You'd think that the NRA and gun rights groups would be all over this. hollowdweller Jul 2016 #40

Ding, ding, ding... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #44

All over it in what way? Marengo Jul 2016 #57

Red state lethal fasination with guns? DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #39

I did NOT say "red state". For good reason, I said "red America". Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #42

You think the black men shooting other black men in blue cities are "red minded"???? DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #43

In my book, gun madness and mayhem is a "red" mentality, whoever may be manifesting it. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #45

Everyone that does something bad is red minded! LOL DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #46

You are using a logical fallacy. Gun users madly causing mayhem, NOT EVERYONE. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #49

That makes perfect sense! DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #50

Deal with it... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #52

"Gun users madly causing mayhem, NOT EVERYONE."... beevul Jul 2016 #60

I have not used the word "all". Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #63

And no one said you did. beevul Jul 2016 #64

Absurd. Civilian gun owners are not causing cops to shoot people. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #65

Your absurdity is another's clarity. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #67

I have read this thread from top to bottom. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #68

the NRA mentality has infected all of America Skittles Jul 2016 #69

K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #41

Police need monthly drug testing Calculating Jul 2016 #48

Yup...they should have to pee in a cup on a regular, but unscheduled basis. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #51

Minnesota is "Red America"? brooklynite Jul 2016 #54

No, not Minnesota the state, but the "minds" of hundreds of thousands of Americans who live there. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #55