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PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
25. AGU
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jul 2016

3 July 2016

As reported recently in the online magazine No-till Farmer, a study led by Ohio Northern University chemistry professor Christopher Spiese links the popular herbicide glyphosate to dissolved reactive phosphorus (DRP) desorption in soils. Mobilization and runoff of phosphorus to streams and lakes is associated with toxic algae blooms in Lake Erie and the Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone.
For decades, soil scientists have understood phosphorus to form low-solubility compounds or to be tightly bound to soil particles. To control phosphorus, it was important to reduce soil erosion. Control erosion and we could control phosphorus runoff. Here is an example of this well-worn but, in my opinion, somewhat outdated understanding from PennState Extension:

Phosphorus is not lost into the atmosphere—rarely does it leach beyond the reach of roots…The concentration of soluble phosphate in the soil solution is very low, and phosphorus is relatively immobile in the soil…Because phosphorus is very immobile in the soil, it does not move very far in the soil to get to the roots. Diffusion to the root is only about 1/8 of an inch per year, and relatively little phosphorus in soil is within that distance of a root.

To the contrary, recent studies (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) indicate significant leaching of phosphorus from agricultural fields. The Agronomy Society of America reports here:

http://blogs.agu.org/terracentral/2016/07/03/lake-erie-watershed-soil-phosphorus-study-shows-glyphosate-link/

There is a wealth of information out there about Christopher Spiese and this particular study.

https://www.onu.edu/user/12601

i cant find this study. mopinko Jul 2016 #1
Same here, the hyperbole of the article in question, not to mention its source, makes me... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #2
Not to mention fertilizer itself often containing significant amounts of phosphorus. trotsky Jul 2016 #3
The reference to no-till farming seems to pan that out, it seems likely that... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #5
from the no-till article mopinko Jul 2016 #10
Glyphosate transmutes ordinary water to phosphorus Orrex Jul 2016 #15
Damn you, MONSATAN!!! n/t trotsky Jul 2016 #17
It may not have been published yet Il_Coniglietto Jul 2016 #4
The P runoff appears to be a calculation, not an actual measurement. yellowcanine Jul 2016 #22
If you're on Facebook... HuckleB Jul 2016 #9
Once again, you're posting FUD with no basis in science from questionable blogs Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #6
You don't read threads, do you? Scientific Jul 2016 #7
I do. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #13
AGU PatSeg Jul 2016 #25
Glyphosate can cause cancer - International Agency for Research on Cancer Scientific Jul 2016 #8
it is far safer than the alternatives previously used. mopinko Jul 2016 #11
No longer thought safer womanofthehills Jul 2016 #18
It's still known that it's safer. HuckleB Jul 2016 #20
Slavish devotion to and belief in corporate 'science-PR, Inc.' is tragic Scientific Jul 2016 #12
You're funny. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #14
Don't you wish the TRUE BELIEVER Corporate GMO 'Science' Fundies had a sense of humor, too? Scientific Jul 2016 #19
Keep that tinfoil tight. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #24
LOL! Odin2005 Jul 2016 #16
Just yesterday I slaughtered a black goat on the altar of Science Orrex Jul 2016 #21
I've seen you post a number of times... GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #23
Oh, amscray.... n/t PasadenaTrudy Jul 2016 #26
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