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MH1

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129. I feel similarly ** BUT ** these guys would have had guns anyway,
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 07:24 AM
Jul 2016

regardless of gun control laws. Because they planned this, and they would have gotten the guns illegally in this case.

I support increased regulations on gun ownership to prevent many of the other tragedies that occur. But if you have what has played out over the last couple days, combined with the long history and especially the growing visibility due to expanded access to video capture and distribution - then no gun control short of draconian prohibition and confiscation would stop THIS kind of event. And gun control proponents should not take the position that it could, because it is so obviously false that it undercuts all of the good arguments for improving the other situations.

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This is horrible. Rex Jul 2016 #1
Twitter ... local CBS anchor - MH1 Jul 2016 #2
The responses to that Twitter post are sick... sarae Jul 2016 #13
THANK YOU!!! and the "anti police" white supremacist memes perpetuate this. People aren't anti cop uponit7771 Jul 2016 #20
You're right and you know it's likely this is white suspect with a long rifle zz-la Jul 2016 #22
omg... I thought the same thing, it seems one of the suspects is down and the other is being pursued uponit7771 Jul 2016 #25
Yeah that is what I am hearing and seeing zz-la Jul 2016 #28
Wow TeddyR Jul 2016 #27
The main reason I said that is because there were reports of white supremacist groups zz-la Jul 2016 #32
White supremacist groups certainly dislike TeddyR Jul 2016 #40
Suspect is black male B2G Jul 2016 #31
I'm in DFW and have not seen anything on FAUX feed about the suspect... which news channel uponit7771 Jul 2016 #34
DFW police scanner. Nt B2G Jul 2016 #37
I saw a red SUV in the live shot on the news zz-la Jul 2016 #38
It was on the scanner. Ace Rothstein Jul 2016 #46
This is false right now, FOX DFW reporting no suspects detained uponit7771 Jul 2016 #104
Its true. B2G Jul 2016 #110
May have been two.... BooScout Jul 2016 #3
About 200 Yards from the Triple Underpass Near Federal Courthouse Stallion Jul 2016 #4
fffffffuck uponit7771 Jul 2016 #5
Watching a news feed now online zz-la Jul 2016 #6
Faux News brettdale Jul 2016 #11
I was watching the NBC online app streaming the protest zz-la Jul 2016 #18
Dallas Fox4: An Officier Caught Talking on Live Feed Said: "Someone Has a Rifle" Stallion Jul 2016 #7
Guns, guns, guns everywhere! Never too many guns! writes3000 Jul 2016 #8
I feel similarly ** BUT ** these guys would have had guns anyway, MH1 Jul 2016 #129
Sounds like shots still going on uponit7771 Jul 2016 #9
Somebody with a rifle in the parking garage that faces the street zz-la Jul 2016 #10
Yes There is a Unusually Tall Parking Garage Right There that Would Give Perfect Cover to Open Area Stallion Jul 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author AngryAmish Jul 2016 #56
No The Old Texas School Book Depository is 3 Blocks to the West Stallion Jul 2016 #60
FUCK FOX 4 DFW!! "... anti police protest..." in their banner uponit7771 Jul 2016 #12
A police officer is shot and you are worried about a banner on fox news? Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #14
Yes, of course I'm concerned how the area is described... perpetuating people are anti police at an uponit7771 Jul 2016 #16
Yes. And for good reason. This is going to be framed horribly morningfog Jul 2016 #17
+1, they just changed the banner... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #21
That is not Fox News. yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #53
My post says FOX 4 news I was thinking if you put the channel in front then its different than the uponit7771 Jul 2016 #58
I was referring to the person below you sorry. yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #63
ok... fucked up situation here in DFW.. no doubt.. uponit7771 Jul 2016 #66
Gosh so true and clearly I am replying very fast and not accurate. yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #71
CBSN is covering live. I'm watching via roku. nt Purveyor Jul 2016 #19
Anti-police assholes hijacking a protest. romanic Jul 2016 #23
ONE SUSPECT IS DOWN.... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #24
Reports are that the swat team is taking fire, and returning fire. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #26
+1, I'm hearing some shots being fired on FOX feed uponit7771 Jul 2016 #29
Two suspects down now. One suspect reported to be a black male. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #30
Which news channel is reporting this? tia uponit7771 Jul 2016 #35
Police scanner. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #39
Great. Now the focus will be on Takket Jul 2016 #33
I have a feeling you might be right zz-la Jul 2016 #41
"They only call it a race war when we fight back." morningfog Jul 2016 #55
Damn, some how I get the feeling someone in the 60s said this and shit aint changed much... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #84
Found this post quite shocking GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #122
Any focus on racial injustice... BronxBoy Jul 2016 #130
Shooting happened very close to Dealey Plaza oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #36
Female shot in front of the Omni B2G Jul 2016 #42
Some sick bastards out there... just too many guns in the US uponit7771 Jul 2016 #43
Could be unrelated to the other shooting. B2G Jul 2016 #44
Omni is Between 200-300 Yards from the Parking Garage Near Federal Courthouse Stallion Jul 2016 #49
"Nothing found at the Omni" nt B2G Jul 2016 #47
More Shots During Multiple Episodes in Last Few Minutes Stallion Jul 2016 #45
Where are you getting this? Nevernose Jul 2016 #48
Local FOX and ABC Channel Stallion Jul 2016 #50
Most likely police scanners. You can access them easily online. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #51
How crazy would it be if oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #52
Fox news DFW reporting 3 - 6 officers down now, I don't think the shooting is over uponit7771 Jul 2016 #54
It's not. Nt B2G Jul 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author ecstatic Jul 2016 #57
Are you implying there is a conspiracy? Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #62
B of A building 7th floor B2G Jul 2016 #70
I promised my SO this would happen. And it has. And it ecstatic Jul 2016 #75
3-6 officers being shot is a major story Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #80
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #83
One has died. B2G Jul 2016 #90
the framing of your responses suggests you want to be kicked off DU CreekDog Jul 2016 #99
What are you suggesting exactly? B2G Jul 2016 #64
Supposedly a woman in custody. Ace Rothstein Jul 2016 #61
Suspect BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #65
One cop oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #67
Urgent BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #68
FOX DFW reports police are negotiating with second suspect uponit7771 Jul 2016 #69
Police have shooter cornered oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #72
I live in the D/FW area, watching local news, and the newest update is 3 police officers shot. 2 Waldorf Jul 2016 #73
Protesters shot or injured as well oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #74
yeap, looking at FOX DFW feed looks like someone just went nuts into the crowd ... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #82
Apparently Both Snipers From Two Different Elevated Positions Stallion Jul 2016 #100
Yeap, this was planned... protesters shot too uponit7771 Jul 2016 #102
One shooter "neutralized" one shooter in "negotiations". BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #76
5-6 police officers gravely wounded. BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #77
Unbelievable. liberalmuse Jul 2016 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author Waldorf Jul 2016 #91
We needed the protesters to have guns oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #79
right?! uponit7771 Jul 2016 #81
Will this be when trump turns his racist ire towards AAs? morningfog Jul 2016 #88
Live local Dallas coverage link KeepItReal Jul 2016 #85
4 DART officers attacked one of them dead uponit7771 Jul 2016 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author KeepItReal Jul 2016 #87
EDIT: The FOX DFW crew said he was 10 feet away from the guy and he wasn't doing anything... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #89
From Dallas Police Chief: 2 snipers from elevated positions 10 Police hit KeepItReal Jul 2016 #92
Reporting now 10 officers shot 3 dead on FOX DFW, 2 snipers from elevated positions... shit uponit7771 Jul 2016 #93
Black guy in body armor arrested Nevernose Jul 2016 #94
+1, he was around the crowd during the running ... no suspects in custody so far uponit7771 Jul 2016 #105
WFAA is now saying 10 officers shot, 1 confirmed dead, possibly 2 others. Waldorf Jul 2016 #95
WTF? BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #96
That's a guy in a shirt Nevernose Jul 2016 #98
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #103
CNN just showed this picture and reported that he is a suspect BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #107
Just saw that Nevernose Jul 2016 #109
That's definitely the suspect Dallas police believe opened fire. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #113
I didn't see the gun in your photo Nevernose Jul 2016 #114
No worries. :) BlueNoMatterWho Jul 2016 #116
THERE ARE NO SUSPECTS IN CUSTODY !!!! FOX DFW reporting now uponit7771 Jul 2016 #97
I think this is a reporter at the live link chowder66 Jul 2016 #101
A person of interest oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #106
He was open carrying and marching in the protest. KeepItReal Jul 2016 #111
+1, hmmmm... that's my understanding is he was marching in the protest too.. the shots were fired uponit7771 Jul 2016 #118
This pic was taken in daylight B2G Jul 2016 #119
Rumor of a bomb oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #108
America's love of gun culture.. HipChick Jul 2016 #112
That open carry oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #115
I guess 45 States need to secede then. Thats how many allow some form of open carry. Waldorf Jul 2016 #117
Nah... the DNC can turn Texas blue, demographically its already at LEAST purple uponit7771 Jul 2016 #120
EDIT: FOX DFW reporting no additional shoot out uponit7771 Jul 2016 #121
11 shot 4 dead 840high Jul 2016 #123
The person of interest has turned himself in. KeepItReal Jul 2016 #124
+1, the person in the pic was not firing and was in a vid running with the crowd uponit7771 Jul 2016 #125
Many shot DFW PDs shot in the back uponit7771 Jul 2016 #126
It's bad. It's not 22 1st and 2nd graders shot bad, cheapdate Jul 2016 #127
FOX4 DFW shows someone shooting the cops who KNEW how to handle an AR-15 the vid is uponit7771 Jul 2016 #128
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