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appal_jack

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12. No & no at present.

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 12:11 AM

Jul 2016

I try not to worry about police at all. I interacted with a few officers today during the aftermath of a big storm down this way, and they were courteous, professional, and helpful. I appreciate that, and their important work helping to keep citizens safe around downed power lines, etc.

My own semi-auto weapons are for protection against home invasion, as police are usually >25 minutes away from me. That's a long response time if something bad were to happen.

If police departments can own full-auto guns and exploding robot drones, etc., then why can't an American own a simple semi-auto rifle? Police and non-police are both just regular, civilian citizens...

Banning citizens from owning semi-auto rifles will not necessarily make it harder for the murderous fucks...

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Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles. [View all] morningfog Jul 2016 OP

Good luck with that, we can't even get agreement on DU n/t doc03 Jul 2016 #1

DU has a few vocal gun fetishists. morningfog Jul 2016 #2

Well I happen to agree with you, morningfog. calimary Jul 2016 #37

totally agree RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #339

No, I have been here over 10 years pipoman Jul 2016 #338

There were Democrats who didn't want, or believe in, civil rights in the 60's, too. villager Jul 2016 #156

Its a modern sporting rifle SpookyDem Jul 2016 #3

Which bears an amazing resemblance to weapons first designed by the Nazis. NT Jerry442 Jul 2016 #6

What modern gun are you comparing to which nazi rifle? SpookyDem Jul 2016 #27

How about this one. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #65

Top one is a 22 LR nt michreject Jul 2016 #106

The first one is NOT an StG 44 MohRokTah Jul 2016 #264

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #30

Sporting rifle... What does that mean? 3Stones Jul 2016 #19

For sportsing of course SpookyDem Jul 2016 #25

Who the fuck uses an AR-15 for "sport"? MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #31

I use them for target shooting and coyote/pig hunting SpookyDem Jul 2016 #34

And you need an AR-15 for that? MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #57

What kind of fun should he use? NT Adrahil Jul 2016 #90

Something that can't be used to murder dozens of people in minutes would be a start. nt. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #103

So no semi-auto handguns either? TeddyR Jul 2016 #116

Personally, I want them all banned. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #131

Look, I completely respect your opinion TeddyR Jul 2016 #134

I appreciate the civil discussion, truly MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #138

Thank you TeddyR Jul 2016 #141

This is exactly what we need. Scruffy1 Jul 2016 #159

Do you want to stop mass shootings, or the quotidian gun violence? sir pball Jul 2016 #394

I want to do both. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #397

i totally agree with you. I'm absolutely DONE enabling violence trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #244

Here's how you accomplish that. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #266

The amendment is silly in today's real world MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #375

No, you don't understand the opriginal intent at all. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #376

Sorry your opinion MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #377

Hard to write that into a law. Adrahil Jul 2016 #118

None of these killing machines are acceptable. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #132

Not even for hunters? Marengo Jul 2016 #157

Hunters can find a new hobby. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #168

Ah, the voice of ignorance. But, please continue to roll with that "hobby" nonsense... Marengo Jul 2016 #169

Ahh, the voice of an enabler. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #271

Do you believe all hunting is for sport? Marengo Jul 2016 #407

What's your plan for.... Adrahil Jul 2016 #269

Sound's like "Bungalow Bill" SheriffBob Jul 2016 #162

Difficult but not impossible. See post #266 for a detailed step by step how to guide. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #267

Any gun can be used to murder dozens of people, or even a knife or bomb jack_krass Jul 2016 #336

Not based on need michreject Jul 2016 #108

So it is a toy to you and could be replaced with a shotgun for hunting KeepItReal Jul 2016 #127

you could but shotguns are not practical, for this range/type of hunting SpookyDem Jul 2016 #354

Nope. I use an actual military-issue sniper rifle for hunting. sir pball Jul 2016 #390

The majority of those who own them. beevul Jul 2016 #41

Ignorance you say? MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #54

Well.... Adrahil Jul 2016 #93

What a lovely straw-man. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #98

Murder is illegal too. Adrahil Jul 2016 #120

Haven't seen too many felonious gun violent perps get a pat on the back. They too are typically jmg257 Jul 2016 #363

I don't get your point at all. Driving drunk is illegal, and other activities drunk MillennialDem Jul 2016 #104

Murdering someone is illegal too. Adrahil Jul 2016 #124

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #146

No. Ignorance is believing that any majority share your opinion. beevul Jul 2016 #170

Target shooting is a sport Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #179

3 gun competition shooters. ileus Jul 2016 #381

The Germans, they LOVE the AR but hate our sloppy manufacturing. sir pball Jul 2016 #393

It seems the sport they refer to is... liberal N proud Jul 2016 #128

Shooting guns is not a sport SheriffBob Jul 2016 #163

ahhhh the voice of ignorance melm00se Jul 2016 #180

Olympics also sees curling as a sport. liberal N proud Jul 2016 #194

No it takes skill Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #185

You have to make sure that trigger finger is properly stretched liberal N proud Jul 2016 #187

Pulling a trigger doesn't mean you're going to hit anything. beevul Jul 2016 #199

Me, my Loving Wife, and all three of our sons shoot HighPower. oneshooter Jul 2016 #258

The fact that something is hard doesn't make it a sport mythology Jul 2016 #344

It requires more than "physical strength" oneshooter Jul 2016 #346

Is it a sport if it's in the Olympics? nt sir pball Jul 2016 #391

Who on earth should respect anything you have to say on this subject after that ignorant gem. Marengo Jul 2016 #341

flame SheriffBob Jul 2016 #383

Then come on out to a match, and show us how easy it is. oneshooter Jul 2016 #384

LOL! It's rare to see a such a public display of profound ignorance on a subject. But... Marengo Jul 2016 #387

You are SheriffBob Jul 2016 #412

It's not the guns, even, it's the NRA. Barack_America Jul 2016 #4

It's BOTH. calimary Jul 2016 #38

^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #69

its not the NRA, it is the gun culture they represent Amishman Jul 2016 #88

This is fairly accurate TeddyR Jul 2016 #117

The NRA isn't about members SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #126

I'm not familiar with their funding TeddyR Jul 2016 #130

It's not for lack of funding EL34x4 Jul 2016 #151

Actually, that would be the NSSF. N/T beevul Jul 2016 #171

Bloomberg has more money than the NRA Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #188

Completely wrong pipoman Jul 2016 #343

The death toll due to "gun culture" is strange. Igel Jul 2016 #147

Unfortunately, you are right. Scruffy1 Jul 2016 #158

The 2nd Amendment hasn't a thing to do with "need" or "hunting"....nothing pipoman Jul 2016 #345

In which conflict(s) did your grandfather win 3 silver stars? What was the branch of service? Marengo Jul 2016 #404

Don't forget the 90-100 million gun owners. That's a whole bunch of people. nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #123

disagree SheriffBob Jul 2016 #164

Open carry is totally idiotic Motley13 Jul 2016 #5

My son best friend is a concealed and carry person. I asked him why B Calm Jul 2016 #56

His possession of a firearm makes him on average 8.5 times more KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #80

When these two boys were growing up together I insisted they B Calm Jul 2016 #83

Sorry to belabor the point. you can be the safest gun-owner in the history of the known universe and KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #91

Cite your source, please. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #112

nah, not going to get in a pissing match with gun humpers. - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #114

I think people are starting to get it. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #119

At least you admit what your statistics are composed of. former9thward Jul 2016 #177

Heh-heh. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #193

At least you seem to admit Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #191

You cite lies and pretend those who point it out are the problem.... pipoman Jul 2016 #347

Well, not totally idiotic. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #270

The humpers are going to swarm this, but of course you are right. Squinch Jul 2016 #7

If you put them all on ignore, it makes things almost tolerable. SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #23

One reason that nothing gets done in this country TeddyR Jul 2016 #122

Add me jack_krass Jul 2016 #356

How about rifles with 10 round fixed mags, like the SKS? nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #8

I have a Savage Arms .22 Semi-auto with a 10 round mag. Assault rifle? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #32

.22 caliber firearms kill a lot of people annually. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #337

But then how would they resist a tyrannical government / kill cops? ...I mean...er...Constitution! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #9

Yeah, ask them who exactly they plan to shoot and when? Jerry442 Jul 2016 #66

Technical Note: Hitler was "appointed," not "elected." The Nazi Party KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #81

Fair point. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #85

Van Papen and the conservatives around Hindenburg thought they could "control".and KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #89

{Sigh} Remember when "Godwin's Law" was an obscure Internet meme? NT Jerry442 Jul 2016 #92

Right, because people willing to murder never do anything illegal. appal_jack Jul 2016 #10

Why not make it harder for the murderous fucks, as you say? morningfog Jul 2016 #11

No & no at present. appal_jack Jul 2016 #12

Of course it would make it harder. morningfog Jul 2016 #14

Jesus... G_j Jul 2016 #18

+1 n/t IL Lib Jul 2016 #22

remember this? AntiBank Jul 2016 #47

Yes, fire extinguishers are for cowards too. appal_jack Jul 2016 #111

Maybe more like having a hook and ladder truck G_j Jul 2016 #136

If it needs to be parked in the drive way, it's a howitzer, not a handgun. appal_jack Jul 2016 #150

I had to call emergency services once in Maine.. sir pball Jul 2016 #392

I was referring to the imagined "need" G_j Jul 2016 #398

The only imagined 'need', is the 'need' to ban them. N/T beevul Jul 2016 #399

If you are going to go through the steps to arm yourself, especially for defense, jmg257 Jul 2016 #401

a lot of sane people G_j Jul 2016 #402

Sure....and it makes some sense - for home protection - for some. Of course they have semi-auto jmg257 Jul 2016 #403

Sure - if you are a good shot hack89 Jul 2016 #409

"Are you worried about the police and HS weapons?" sarisataka Jul 2016 #13

Yes. Two black men had guns and white cops freaked out morningfog Jul 2016 #15

So if black men don't want to worry about police sarisataka Jul 2016 #16

the shooter cop in Minnesota was a PoC, Jeronimo Yanez, not a white cop AntiBank Jul 2016 #48

We have what amounts to an open border to the south. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #33

The thing is, you DON'T make it harder for the murderous fucks... beevul Jul 2016 #172

If guns were illegal, they'd be very, very expensive. Marr Jul 2016 #28

Market science says that makes the price go down rather than disappear. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #35

Just like cocaine pot and heroine, right? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #42

Exactly like that, yeah-- they're expensive. Marr Jul 2016 #144

Our survey says: Bzzt. beevul Jul 2016 #173

This says you're wrong: Marr Jul 2016 #182

So you want a war on guns, just like the war on drugs. beevul Jul 2016 #189

I'm glad you admit prices on guns would go up, at least. Marr Jul 2016 #192

Gun control proponents regularly engage in mischaracterization... beevul Jul 2016 #198

So the US and Australia are utterly incomparable, but comparing a Marr Jul 2016 #272

Gun control advocates also tend to double down when called on their mischaracterizations... beevul Jul 2016 #291

In posts #173 and #42, you very clearly made the comparison to marijuana. Marr Jul 2016 #302

In the context of its prohibition. beevul Jul 2016 #306

Obviously. That's the entire context of the discussion. /nt Marr Jul 2016 #307

Then don't accuse me of comparing pot to guns... beevul Jul 2016 #308

I didn't mischaracterize your comments. Marr Jul 2016 #357

Yes you did, and unless you edit or delete... beevul Jul 2016 #367

they would still be dirt cheap AntiBank Jul 2016 #50

Not according to this. Marr Jul 2016 #184

you erected a strawman. I never said it would drive the price down AntiBank Jul 2016 #252

Well, if your argument is that the price would go up, but not much, you're equally incorrect. Marr Jul 2016 #305

you once again fail to see that Australia is vastly different AntiBank Jul 2016 #311

Australia is a huge continent, surrounded by massive economies. Marr Jul 2016 #355

not only are you wrong, but this entire thread is based off AntiBank Jul 2016 #359

Not a fantasy, a hypothetical. Marr Jul 2016 #362

One man 'Challenged' the government just a few days ago. beevul Jul 2016 #364

Where is that Texas shooter, again? Marr Jul 2016 #368

Of course you do. beevul Jul 2016 #370

I'm finding it difficult to control my laughter. Marr Jul 2016 #371

How many did the DC sniper kill? beevul Jul 2016 #374

There's asymmetrical war, and there's Ammon Bundy-style 'uprising'. Marr Jul 2016 #379

More likely massive and open non-compliance, with law enforcement agencies refusing to enforce Marengo Jul 2016 #366

Those who expect a 'civil war' to help them defend their toy chest Marr Jul 2016 #369

I doubt much resistance would be violent, nor would it need be. Compliance and enforcement Marengo Jul 2016 #373

Sorry, but ganja price is still dropping. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #203

Sorry, but you're the one arguing against basic market principles. Marr Jul 2016 #234

Well hell, why have any laws at all then? Marr Jul 2016 #358

Thats a strawman. Nobody wants "no laws". beevul Jul 2016 #365

Common error. Straw Man Jul 2016 #372

It's almost pathetic that all of the mass shootings in recent SheilaT Jul 2016 #17

Modern military assault rifles never were meant for everyone. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #20

The weapons in question, are not "Modern military assault rifles". beevul Jul 2016 #43

You know you've lost when you're trying to debate the definition of the weapon KeepItReal Jul 2016 #133

We weren't debating the 'definition'... beevul Jul 2016 #176

Interesting virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #46

Agreed. That's why the US has banned them since the 1930s Recursion Jul 2016 #71

Way to twist the argument. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #73

*He* doesn't know what he meant. He thinks AR-15s fire faster than other rifles. He's wrong. Recursion Jul 2016 #75

That is not the point, at all. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #77

None of *which* weapons? Semi-automatics? Recursion Jul 2016 #84

Most people don't know all the terminology MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #100

Getting the terminology right is critical TeddyR Jul 2016 #125

I agree we need to be educated so we may fight from a position of strength MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #135

The Virginia Tech shooter TeddyR Jul 2016 #140

Rifles of any kind are rarely used in murders Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #197

What are "these" weapons? Recursion Jul 2016 #137

I'm not uncomfortable with it at all- MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #145

We tried that way once and got the disastrous AWB Recursion Jul 2016 #148

It is really very simple if you would just admit it Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #202

+1 Matrosov Jul 2016 #153

Or an ammosexual Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #205

If you are in the business of banning, you better. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #211

It very easy to convert a semi-auto to full auto. Truthfully, a semi-auto is sufficiently deadly. Hoyt Jul 2016 #109

None of those were converted to full auto Recursion Jul 2016 #139

No, you've totally missed the point. Semi-autos can kill 50 people quickly. And if you want, Hoyt Jul 2016 #143

So drop the "military" nonsense Recursion Jul 2016 #149

Time to ban/restrict semi-autos. Thought it was clear. Hoyt Jul 2016 #154

You're being clear; the OP isn't Recursion Jul 2016 #155

It is not easy and has not been for decades Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #207

Bullshit. beevul Jul 2016 #212

So this slide stock does not exist, even though it's sold on Amazon.com. Hoyt Jul 2016 #222

Were those goalposts heavy hoyt? beevul Jul 2016 #225

I've already posted a video of how to do it internally. The slide stock is a conversion too. Hoyt Jul 2016 #226

Not in this thread you haven't. beevul Jul 2016 #230

Fact is, real military assault rifles are used on select fire most of the time. Hoyt Jul 2016 #236

Fact is, you don't know what you're talking about. beevul Jul 2016 #241

Beevul, it's a title with editing to make it fit. You know what it means, or should. Quit playing Hoyt Jul 2016 #242

ROFL. beevul Jul 2016 #246

This message was self-deleted by its author SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #21

The prospect of having to "give them up" is exactly what they live for. Aristus Jul 2016 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #26

I'll keep my semi-automatic rifles. n/t Waldorf Jul 2016 #29

Why? Germany, Austria, Italy, New Zealand, among others, all allow them and it's OK...BAN PISTOLS. sir pball Jul 2016 #36

Yes, ban all guns NOW, in the USA. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #39

So, you propose the absolute strictest gun control in the world, off the bat? sir pball Jul 2016 #40

Yes, I propose banning all guns except those for agricultural purposes, underahedgerow Jul 2016 #95

It is HUGELY difficult TeddyR Jul 2016 #129

Most of the civilized world hasn't banned guns. Statistical Jul 2016 #190

The Constitution is hardly a perfect document, and it is meant to be a fluid document that underahedgerow Jul 2016 #196

Well then get out from"underahedgerow" and get busy. oneshooter Jul 2016 #260

I do what I can. I've done what I can on other issues, far too deep to detail here. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #273

What's an agricultural purpose? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #210

How about "No". N/T beevul Jul 2016 #44

No.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #49

All guns? Adrahil Jul 2016 #94

Thank you. The 2nd Amendment argument for handguns is much weaker, too Recursion Jul 2016 #72

Interesting. Given the data and ergonomics, you might be right. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #216

I don't actually support *banning* handguns, but I do realize they're the bigger problem by 20x. sir pball Jul 2016 #389

I am under NO obligation to obey unjust laws.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #45

There goes that "law-abiding" BS. Hoyt Jul 2016 #86

And you've never broken a law, mister self admitted former robber? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #201

Good luck making your own powder and primer MillennialDem Jul 2016 #99

It is not a problem.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #281

No, I'd never waste a single penny on that horrible (outside of war) industry. MillennialDem Jul 2016 #303

Who's wasting? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #313

Irrelevant to my point. I said I will never spend a penny on guns. MillennialDem Jul 2016 #314

But you do spend money on guns and ammo. oneshooter Jul 2016 #315

Oh brother MillennialDem Jul 2016 #324

Not a chance in hell. OccupyPA Jul 2016 #51

Aren't the majority of shootings done with handguns? JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #52

ssssssssshhhhhhhhhh nt michreject Jul 2016 #113

Yes Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #213

During WWI shotguns were used as trench clearing firearms JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #231

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #53

People that use an assault weapon for hunting suck at hunting. baldguy Jul 2016 #55

OK, what you've just done is shown that you don't understand what these are. Recursion Jul 2016 #70

Yeah - that handgrip sure makes a "wanna be" hunter a real wussie. jmg257 Jul 2016 #110

And you hunt how often? n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #284

The constitution doesn't mention hunting and sporting as the reason to be able to carry FXSTD Jul 2016 #58

I'd like for you to quote the exact phrase in the Constitution GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #348

The preamble comes pretty close. beevul Jul 2016 #349

Well I don't see guns, or oppressive government mentioned anywhere there. So... GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #350

No, you don't. beevul Jul 2016 #351

"A well regulated militia" SheriffBob Jul 2016 #420

Do we have to pit gun carriers and gun haters against each other on this site again? romanic Jul 2016 #59

Yes. Because the gun lovers are standing in the way of societal progress. morningfog Jul 2016 #60

Discussions have to be made. romanic Jul 2016 #61

I've lost patience. Every goddamned time, these assholes trot morningfog Jul 2016 #62

Good luck. romanic Jul 2016 #64

Not interested in a civil conversation with this people. They are irrational. morningfog Jul 2016 #96

You are free to keep thinking wrongly, & losing votes. appal_jack Jul 2016 #115

I don't need your permission. So long. morningfog Jul 2016 #142

Hope the fog clears for you some day. appal_jack Jul 2016 #152

I thought you were leaving? morningfog Jul 2016 #160

+1 MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #79

You don't coddle them. hack89 Jul 2016 #165

Way to win your argument, lol Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #214

I don't give a FUCK. Not trying to win an argument. Get o. It get the fuck out of the way. morningfog Jul 2016 #249

That attitude is why Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #253

No, it is the people who worship the gun and stroke it. morningfog Jul 2016 #277

And who is that, me? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #279

You'll have to try on your own shoes. morningfog Jul 2016 #293

You directed that response to me Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #296

And tell us, who are those people? n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #285

They are obvious. morningfog Jul 2016 #292

They are not, point some out Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #297

No I have decided not to. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #261

Is anybody here against their own free will? SheriffBob Jul 2016 #421

The definition debate has to preclude reform concerning assault rifles. Captain Stern Jul 2016 #63

We won't be giving them up. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #67

I'm thinking of picking up an SKS 7.62mm MohRokTah Jul 2016 #178

I'm right there too. beevul Jul 2016 #206

If you're interested.... aikoaiko Jul 2016 #209

Man, I was told no background checks for internet sales Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #255

License and insure, just like cars greymattermom Jul 2016 #68

And tax them annually, just like cars. Hoyt Jul 2016 #87

Whoops, posted in wrong place. My apologies. Hoyt Jul 2016 #102

I do not need a license and insurance to OWN Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #217

tax a civil liberty? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #382

I agree. And "open carry" has to go away. Vinca Jul 2016 #74

That's interesting: I'm personally much more bothered by concealed carry Recursion Jul 2016 #76

I'm bothered by that, too. Personally, I'd like all guns gone. Vinca Jul 2016 #78

Me too, open carry Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #219

Nope Matrosov Jul 2016 #82

No. nt hack89 Jul 2016 #97

Honestly, we should ban all handguns. Let the fetishists keep their long guns, hand guns cause MillennialDem Jul 2016 #101

Police? mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #105

because the AWB was ineffective. Statistical Jul 2016 #200

In mass shootings mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #208

Orlando, Dallas, Sandy Hook, etc., prove semi-autos are plenty deadly, but gunners can convert Hoyt Jul 2016 #107

And how many people are killed by rifles annually? nt hack89 Jul 2016 #167

I'd like to hear about one instance of a mass shooting where a bump fire stock was in use. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #195

Once again, I have no issue restricting semi-auto pistols too. Just riding the wave of opposition Hoyt Jul 2016 #218

What you say makes me happy. hack89 Jul 2016 #220

LOL! virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #386

The first two videos ARE NOT automatic weapons. They are sem-automatic approved by the BATF. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #183

Didn't say they were fully automatic. It's a technique to simulate full auto. Hoyt Jul 2016 #215

That was the implication you made when you used the word 'convert'. beevul Jul 2016 #239

Look at what I said and stop pointing at each word. This is exactly what I said above bumpfirer: Hoyt Jul 2016 #240

I am. beevul Jul 2016 #243

The FBI Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #221

No thanks. n/t Kang Colby Jul 2016 #121

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #161

Why would they do that? Gun hoarders have serious issues that will never be addressed. Rex Jul 2016 #166

We have more guns than people in the US Motley13 Jul 2016 #174

IT takes a lot of money and a special license to buy an assault rifle, and only one manufactured... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #175

We are talking quasi-assault rifles and you know it. Everyone but gunners understand the target. Hoyt Jul 2016 #224

What the hell is a quasi-assalt rifle? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #233

How else to converse with people who play the gun nomenclature game to avoid obvious. Hoyt Jul 2016 #238

As opposed to people who can't be bothered to know what they're talking about... beevul Jul 2016 #247

Good point Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #256

Words mean things MohRokTah Jul 2016 #254

Words mean things and there is a VERY specific definition of "Assault rifle" MohRokTah Jul 2016 #251

Instead of creating new words, why not just call it what it is. A semi-automatic rifle. Waldorf Jul 2016 #274

Correction: Assault Rifles are capable of full-auto fire. These rifles are already regulated. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #181

Not a fetishist, a realist. sofa king Jul 2016 #186

^^^^^ LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #204

Thank you. sofa king Jul 2016 #223

Exactly; I agree LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #265

I agree 100% SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #245

Meh. Fuck tradition. Ass backwards hicks should not control the debate. morningfog Jul 2016 #248

But they will... sofa king Jul 2016 #257

Are you saying everybody who disagrees with you about firearm regulation is... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #259

Of course not, only the ignorant hicks. morningfog Jul 2016 #275

And neither should insult spewing morons. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #262

+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #268

Who you calling a moron, shooter? morningfog Jul 2016 #276

those who bring nothing to the table oneshooter Jul 2016 #282

Much noise, and vitriol ... no action as usual DonP Jul 2016 #405

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #395

No, you do not get it. morningfog Jul 2016 #396

If I can give up lawn darts... maveric56 Jul 2016 #227

Lawn darts were not Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #235

As with the phony "assaut weapon" ban, lawn darts are not completely banned. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #340

the last two nationally prominent mass killers explicitly targeted whites Angel Martin Jul 2016 #228

You need to clean up your definitions. I think I will buy one... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #229

FWIW, my husband is a hunter, bought a lifetime membership in the NRA many years ago, napi21 Jul 2016 #232

Semi-automatic firearms have been around since before the year 1900. beevul Jul 2016 #424

I AGREE WITH YOU. trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #237

I look forward to hearing your plan for collecting all of those weapons bluestateguy Jul 2016 #250

Legal Gun owners are just going to have to give up assault rifles.... ummmm Nope n/t DustyJoe Jul 2016 #263

I got no time for pro-massacre assholes. morningfog Jul 2016 #278

And I have no time for hoplophobes. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #286

So you genuinely believe.. SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #287

Not all of them. morningfog Jul 2016 #294

Are most? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #298

Who the fuck knows. Not playing. morningfog Jul 2016 #301

Is there anyone... SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #304

LOL. Good luck to you. morningfog Jul 2016 #310

hah SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #312

It is very typical Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #321

Yup. SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #330

So when challenged on your comment Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #320

I don't think that being for gun rights makes me pro-massacre, but then I'm also for abortion rights LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #288

Stop calling them assault rifles - Use the proper name - Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #280

If you truly want to use the proper name, then it would be semi-automatic rifles. Waldorf Jul 2016 #290

And the nomenclature bullshit begins. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #316

Nomenclature bullshit part 3. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #318

How are you going to define "killing machines" TeddyR Jul 2016 #326

Sorry, no. in any discussion about these devices, the best way to frame it is "killing machines". GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #329

Not quite. SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #335

The Killing Machine Ban - should go over big in Congress. nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #328

I will not give that bullshit argument respect. Fuck that/ morningfog Jul 2016 #295

Nomenclature bullshit part two. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #317

Because that is not the proper name Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #300

Nomenclature bullshit part 4. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #319

Good luck passing a law TeddyR Jul 2016 #325

I've been learning all my life and one of the things I have learned is that some people love GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #327

One of the many reasons Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #331

Yep TeddyR Jul 2016 #333

Something catchy and trademarkable, yet demeaning SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #342

Uh nope and besides, if they don't know you have them, how they going Purveyor Jul 2016 #283

We should be able to make deathrind Jul 2016 #289

Why do you leave Chicago out? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #299

You'd have to ban all firearms TeddyR Jul 2016 #332

They will not listen, sadly Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #334

re: "We've had enough." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #309

I do not know how the poor officer behind him Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #323

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You demand that a current right be taken, then say "don't even start a debate, I don't give a damn." MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #352

I don't have a dog in this fight but I find these threads wildly entertaining. Anyone else? WillowTree Jul 2016 #353

I love them, one side knows their shit R.A. Ganoush Jul 2016 #378

A grown up society? Abq_Sarah Jul 2016 #360

The Gun Used by the Dallas Police Murderer is Revealed. It’s Not What Most People Thought. tirebiter Jul 2016 #361

I don't see an issue here...considering I own counter assault rifles. ileus Jul 2016 #380

a connection SheriffBob Jul 2016 #385

The Dallas shooter used an SKS. dilby Jul 2016 #388

To get this out there - the weapon used is now reported as an AK-74. jmg257 Jul 2016 #400

Sadly, someone like him could have used a bolt action to similar effect (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #411

What an incredibly arrogant OP. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #406

Thanks! morningfog Jul 2016 #410

I's sorry SheriffBob Jul 2016 #413

Why? Because you say so? Wayburn Jul 2016 #408

Their is a word of warning, in the responses in this thread.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #414

Shhh! Keep it secret from the gun lovers until after we take the House, Senate and White House. morningfog Jul 2016 #415

the "gun lovers" as you put it.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #416

They are extreme, I'll give you that. morningfog Jul 2016 #417

Extreme? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #418

Meh. You say personal property, I say instrument of death morningfog Jul 2016 #419

? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #422

Wait and see mountainman. morningfog Jul 2016 #423

Paranoia?? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #426

Oh, like you are talking free enterprise. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #427

Its funny how that works, isn't it? beevul Jul 2016 #425

But can we keep our counter assault rifles? ileus Jul 2016 #428

Absolutely not. morningfog Jul 2016 #429

Ah, come on SheriffBob Jul 2016 #430

Will your ever-shifting definition include 19-ton refer trucks? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #431

Are truck drivers going to have to give up assault trucks? Albertoo Jul 2016 #432