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kentuck

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Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:25 AM Jun 2012

A Memo to the Tea Partiers: [View all]


(If we were able to have a sensible discussion with the Tea Partiers, could we make any progress?)

Could we just lay down our flags and our arms and talk about the facts ?

Could we stop the yelling and the name-calling long enough to listen to each side's argument?

First of all, any rational person would have to admit that the economy was in the toilet when Barack Obama took office? Indeed, it was the worst downturn since the Great Depression. Also, it is not rational or logical to expect the present budget to be balanced when the present President inherited a deficit of $1.2 trillion dollars to start with, along with a crashing stock market and banking system, with a jobs market losing over 700,000 jobs per month. We were in a deep, deep hole. That is a reality we cannot ignore.

Also, Mitt Romney is proposing taxcuts larger than those of George W Bush. Some estimates are as high as $5 trillion dollars in tax cuts. What will those do to the debt and deficits? Let's be honest with ourselves. We know that will not work. Why should we not question the motives? We have seen the results of Mitt Romney's policies. They are the same as George W Bush's, except worse.

I am willing to admit that Barack Obama could have done a lot of things differently. His healthcare plan and his stimulus could have been much different. But, it may not have passed at all? Not only did he have Republican opposition but he had bi-partisan opposition in some instances.

Now, I am ready to listen to your argument. Let's try to stick to the facts and come to an agreement. Make your best argument. You have the floor.

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A Memo to the Tea Partiers: [View all] kentuck Jun 2012 OP
Tea Party's response: Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #1
So you're saying...? kentuck Jun 2012 #2
Pretty Much, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2012 #4
Are you saying Sir..? kentuck Jun 2012 #8
Yes, Sir, I Am The Magistrate Jun 2012 #12
As you know, Sir... kentuck Jun 2012 #13
I Have Known People Like This Ever Since I Was Young, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2012 #17
Sounds like the John Birch Society, Sir. kentuck Jun 2012 #19
And That is What These People Today Are, Sir: The Same Ideas, Mostly In The Same Words The Magistrate Jun 2012 #21
If nothing else, Sir, I hope this thread is informative... kentuck Jun 2012 #22
A footnote to your comments, Sir. Skidmore Jun 2012 #23
Beyond this my friend quaker bill Jun 2012 #30
Their idea of compromise is we agree with them. Bake Jun 2012 #14
By and large,, tea partiers are ersatz, thru and thru. They play homespun. WingDinger Jun 2012 #5
Like, shaaa, facts are so 20th Century - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #3
"First of all, any rational person would have to admit that the economy was in the toilet..." sadbear Jun 2012 #6
They won't argue or discuss in good faith Populist_Prole Jun 2012 #7
You're assuming TeaBaggers are reasonable people willing to discuss anything BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #9
You can't negotiate with racists, bigots, and the willfully ignorant. They are unaffected by logic. Erose999 Jun 2012 #10
You have hit upon something with "willfully ignorant". They will avoid and even ignore indisputable Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #15
They have made up their minds, right or wrong and facts do not matter to them. kemah Jun 2012 #11
sensible discussion with the Tea Partiers Flashmann Jun 2012 #16
I'm happy I could produce something productive with this post. kentuck Jun 2012 #18
Don't feel too bad Populist_Prole Jun 2012 #20
Facts are simply not relevant in the tea view of the world. Kablooie Jun 2012 #24
no. And I am eternally thankful for tea partiers mnmoderatedem Jun 2012 #25
Every last thing they believe about economics has always proven to be wrong libtodeath Jun 2012 #26
To the hard core, the economy was in the toilet because Bush was too liberal (!) Jim Lane Jun 2012 #27
Damn! kentuck Jun 2012 #28
Ask them about Citizens United. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #29
Talking rationally has to go both ways lunatica Jun 2012 #31
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