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LWolf

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37. Not all symptoms

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #36)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:26 PM

Jul 2016

fit every gun owner, lol.

I live rurally. I'm surrounded by guns. My neighbors, my community, my coworkers, even my teenage students...they all have guns. Yet, somehow, I'm not afraid of them.

It doesn't bother me that they hunt; at least, that they hunt for food. I don't like trophy hunts. Killing should not be a sport, imo.

It doesn't bother me that they use guns to keep critters out of their fields, or for competition shooting.

Love of the NRA bothers me. Hatred of the Democratic potus, and constantly feeding the myth about him being out to "get our guns" bothers me.

Some of their gun-related solutions to some of my own rural issues are amusing, to say the least, and dismaying as well. Like the suggestion that I deal with mice by shooting them. Granted, that was a teenage boy, but still. Then there was the adult nearing retirement age, who heard me talking to someone else about not letting my cats out because of the great horned owl that roosts and nests right outside the back door. He suggested shooting it. No thanks.

I just want them regulated. Even more, I want some comprehensive work on creating a healthier culture that would greatly reduce the likelihood of people reaching for guns to solve their problems with other people, or people taking their guns for granted to the point that "accidents" are not rare.

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Can a country with open borders EVER ban guns? [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 OP

Ask France. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #1

So the Charlie Hebdo massacre didn't happen then? NO GUNS? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #2

Yes, indeed it did, and it was horrifying. Do you constantly see spree killings in the headlines underahedgerow Jul 2016 #7

You see a spree killing every time spree killers want to see a spree killing Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #19

+1. A good level-headed response to the usual straw-grasping. nt villager Jul 2016 #51

You then warrant a law successful only when 100% effective? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #71

Just pointing out France and Canada both have guns, but think there is registration there SpookyDem Jul 2016 #3

You THINK they have registration? In France you have to make an application just to buy underahedgerow Jul 2016 #4

It seemed you were saying that they didnt have guns in those countries, SpookyDem Jul 2016 #6

Australia strikes me as a unique situation TeddyR Jul 2016 #26

that's true, but for example, anyone from Canada could go to Alaska or the USA and sneak underahedgerow Jul 2016 #31

Australia has an immense unguarded coastline Red Mountain Jul 2016 #60

No one breaks the law in Canada? former9thward Jul 2016 #73

Not 'no one'. But most citizens respect the law for exactly what it is. That's why society underahedgerow Jul 2016 #74

So no illegal drugs in Canada. former9thward Jul 2016 #75

What's your point? underahedgerow Jul 2016 #81

Didn't know that. Thanks for the information. SheilaT Jul 2016 #78

I agree completely. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #82

"...guns...for agricultural purposes." ??? Petrushka Jul 2016 #5

Not clear on the concept? Wild boars are a dangerous menace in the rural areas of France, underahedgerow Jul 2016 #8

On our farm "back home" in West Virginia . . . Petrushka Jul 2016 #13

I agree completely! That certainly falls under the 'agricultural purposes' realm, underahedgerow Jul 2016 #14

I forgot to mention . . . . Petrushka Jul 2016 #17

Yes and the agricultural purposes can be performed by an expanded game warden department. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #25

No, actually they can't Red Mountain Jul 2016 #61

If you start having problems with hogs, Jim Beard Jul 2016 #66

Right, ban hunting, good way to lose the vote of every rural person. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #39

lololol if you think the EU and AUS and NZ have open borders AntiBank Jul 2016 #76

Apples and oranges Major Nikon Jul 2016 #9

Guns are easy to manufacture madville Jul 2016 #10

Not necessarily for an individual, at least from scrap... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #11

Go to aprox 3:30 in this video: ret5hd Jul 2016 #30

True, I just think that if we were to remove millions of guns from circulation in this country... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #42

Agree completely. ret5hd Jul 2016 #45

If we were to remove most guns from circulation, we might have a slight uptick... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #46

I live in Switzerland. BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #12

Agreed. When an 11 year old can buy a gun in the USA, but can't buy cigarettes or underahedgerow Jul 2016 #15

+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #16

Where can an 11 year old buy a gun? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #20

This kid is 13. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #21

That transaction is illegal, far more illegal than buying a pack of cigarettes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #55

Most Swiss appreciate their duty to their fellow citizens. HassleCat Jul 2016 #53

How many calls and how long would it take you safeinOhio Jul 2016 #18

Ask Australia. Warren Stupidity Jul 2016 #22

Australia is an island in the middle of the ocean TeddyR Jul 2016 #28

Canada and Mexico have much more stringent gun control than the US. roamer65 Jul 2016 #57

Western Europe has had much lower homicide rates than the U.S. for well over 100 years. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #23

you are right edhopper Jul 2016 #24

I'm all or nothing. Continuing this dance with the NRA and gun humpers WON'T work. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #32

As long as you openly admit a complete ban is your goal, it won't be realized. Marengo Jul 2016 #38

I think it's the only way to get the message across. If the majority of people express this underahedgerow Jul 2016 #41

So you ban guns and 50% of the shootings continue. I'd call that a big friggin success. Hoyt Jul 2016 #27

None of my guns will ever take a life, Hoyt. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #35

How do you know that? Are they impossible for people to steal? Is it impossible to point them at... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #43

Impossible to steal? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #63

So you never remove them from the safe? Never go sport shooting or hunting? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #67

Well, good for you. SheilaT Jul 2016 #79

lol. your posts are getting funnier by the moment. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #29

It's a rare talent... thinking of things that bring constant ridicule. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #33

I want open borders. LWolf Jul 2016 #34

"phallic inadequacy". I love that. I KNOW my guns don't make my tiny dick bigger. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #36

Not all symptoms LWolf Jul 2016 #37

No wonder she made that weird smile and gave me a Daisy BB Gun for my B-Day! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #47

Right-o! No bother even trying. Nothing to see here! MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #40

As far as I'm aware of, Mexican cartels get's most of its guns from the United States. Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #44

Heh. Maybe via the Mexican military, via the U.S.? Or the millions in circulation... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #48

I have a question, does gun control work in Canada? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #49

You have conflicting questions. I have no idea if gun control works in Canada. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #50

I would agree that the war on drugs has been very damaging to many places in the world... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #52

Actually, I see no evidence that the # of guns in circulation causes crime increases... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #56

I don't believe the prohibition comparison is that valid, if it were, then nations that do have... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #59

Nations with a history of low crime rates continue with that low rate, gun controls or no. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #68

Actually, per capita, criminality in the United Kingdom is higher... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #69

Interesting speculative question in your last paragraph. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #70

According to the data I linked, the rate of violence is about the same... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #72

I imagine the history goes well back to before our revolution, even further for the British. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #93

What are you talking about? The point seems to have gone over your head... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #94

I am saying that England, for whatever reason, has a lower homicide rate because... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #95

Homicide isn't an objective to most crime in the United States either, is your argument... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #96

No, homicide is NOT the objective of most crime in the U.S.... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #97

Yes, it does work in Canada. roamer65 Jul 2016 #58

Light switch question Warpy Jul 2016 #54

Unsurprisingly, yes, it is a shameful question. Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #85

You CAN ban them Red Mountain Jul 2016 #62

Sounds like a plan mwrguy Jul 2016 #65

Sure, since you asked an extreme question Eko Jul 2016 #77

Saw how well that worked with the drug trade... TipTok Jul 2016 #80

It worked very well Eko Jul 2016 #83

Name a city in the United States where there is no marijuana, meth, or heroin. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #87

Uh, Eko Jul 2016 #88

Don't put words in my mouth. You said in states were drugs were illegal, they weren't "everywhere". cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #89

Its a simple fact Eko Jul 2016 #90

That's not what you said. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #91

Its not Eko Jul 2016 #92

Can an island with a wide open coastline malaise Jul 2016 #84

Hint: They haven't. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #86