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In reply to the discussion: The typical American couple has only $5,000 saved for retirement [View all]seabeckind
(1,957 posts)95. I think Bain was knee deep in these harvests.
Happened to many companies
There was a good piece some years ago about Simmons.
But in the mid-1980s, Simmons caught the attention of a new type of investor. The businesses that stormed corporate America in recent years under the banner of private equity were not always called private equity firms. In the 1980s, they were known as leveraged buyout shops. Their strategy is essentially unchanged, however: they try to buy undervalued companies, using mostly borrowed money, fix them up and sell them for a fast profit.
Because they pile debt onto the companies they buy, the firms free up their own cash, allowing them to make additional investments and increase their potential profits.
Simmonss first trip through the revolving door of private equity came in 1986. Like the latest trip, it was not a pleasant one for employees, but the buyers did just fine.
William E. Simon, a private equity pioneer and a Treasury secretary under President Richard M. Nixon, was the man with the golden touch. In 1986, his investment firm, Wesray Capital, and a handful of Simmonss top managers acquired the company for $120 million, the bulk of which was borrowed. After selling several businesses to pay back some of the money it had borrowed, Wesray cashed out in 1989. It sold Simmons to the companys employee stock ownership plan for $241 million twice what it paid just three years earlier.
The deal was a fiasco for the employees. As part of the buyout, Simmons stopped contributing to its pension plan, since the stock ownership plan shares were meant to pay for the employees retirements. But then the bottom fell out of the housing market and Simmons, with its large debt, stumbled. Its pensions crumbled as the value of the stock plan shares plunged.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0
Because they pile debt onto the companies they buy, the firms free up their own cash, allowing them to make additional investments and increase their potential profits.
Simmonss first trip through the revolving door of private equity came in 1986. Like the latest trip, it was not a pleasant one for employees, but the buyers did just fine.
William E. Simon, a private equity pioneer and a Treasury secretary under President Richard M. Nixon, was the man with the golden touch. In 1986, his investment firm, Wesray Capital, and a handful of Simmonss top managers acquired the company for $120 million, the bulk of which was borrowed. After selling several businesses to pay back some of the money it had borrowed, Wesray cashed out in 1989. It sold Simmons to the companys employee stock ownership plan for $241 million twice what it paid just three years earlier.
The deal was a fiasco for the employees. As part of the buyout, Simmons stopped contributing to its pension plan, since the stock ownership plan shares were meant to pay for the employees retirements. But then the bottom fell out of the housing market and Simmons, with its large debt, stumbled. Its pensions crumbled as the value of the stock plan shares plunged.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0
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That is the problem. Some really cannot afford it. However, if someone saved 100/month in an IRA or
still_one
Jul 2016
#25
I am very sorry what happened to you, and as I mentioned, there are people who cannot
still_one
Jul 2016
#146
That is the case for some people, even many,but we are a society in which many of the members think
Squinch
Jul 2016
#115
No. The situation that I described for the segment of our society I was describing is not complex.
Squinch
Jul 2016
#131
By the time you factor in all the costs that go into preparing meals at home, it's probably...
ChisolmTrailDem
Jul 2016
#72
It was a shyster move, but yet many tout it as great. It's a feeding tray right into wall street.
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#9
Just talk to those with United Airlines when the defaulted on their pension plan
still_one
Jul 2016
#30
Yep, that's often what happens, the company goes belly up or raids the funds. n/t
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#40
I can't recall all of the details now, but one of the CEOs and his henchmen had a history
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#90
Thank you, yes, exactly!!! And what really irks me, they try to make everything sound like it's
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#98
Also, many 401Ks today allow for self-directed 401Ks, where the participant chooses the fund, ETF,
still_one
Jul 2016
#26
I hear you, but it also allows workers to say "screw you" and walk away from the employer.
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#22
And next month there will be a MW article with the sadz about how we don't spend enough.
Brickbat
Jul 2016
#10
I disagree with this. I don't think there will ever be a cultural change that makes our culture
Squinch
Jul 2016
#158
And there are millions and millions in the US in the same situation, yet their voices go
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#16
It's rough. Money flies out the window quickly when the paycheck stops. My dad, years
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#29
Exactly!!! And the prices keep going up and up. Just the grocery bills for two are getting
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#33
For me it comes down to this: do I put my "extra" money toward my kids' education or
Still In Wisconsin
Jul 2016
#32
And "if" jobs are even available. Job pickings get pretty slim for retirees. Probably
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#37
Perhaps. The advantage of putting a little money away in a tax deferred savings vehicle, is that
still_one
Jul 2016
#59
Austerity by design. The .01% don't believe humans contribute to humanity when they're comfortable.
ancianita
Jul 2016
#41
Yep, it's not by chance this is happening, it's the design of the system, and IMO it's
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#43
The Wokes' hesitancy to fight comes from being weakened by soothing messages to WAIT.
ancianita
Jul 2016
#48
My thought on this is many live in denial. Retirement is a long way off and cost of
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#44
The earlier people start to save whether for retirement or their child's education, the more options
still_one
Jul 2016
#62
Agreed. 529's have issues also, but it sounds to me that you did good, but so much effort and time
still_one
Jul 2016
#85
Yep, same with many of us. My job today in IT today would be in some other country. n/t
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#69
Yep, my local bank pays about .01% interest. And FFS, they try to make this sound like a great
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#93
Yep! Exactly! Many can't save no matter how much they want too. But still they are
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#101
Yep, it's far more complicated than many understand. And most lay people trade
RKP5637
Jul 2016
#112
I did that for three years. Lost a ton of money. Went to a combination of unmanaged
Squinch
Jul 2016
#116