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roamer65

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58. Yes, it does work in Canada.

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:53 PM

Jul 2016

However, the the biggest problem for Canada is the smuggling of guns across the border.

You can own more than u would think in Canada, but you have to go through MUCH more rigourous gun training and background checks to be able to own guns in the "restricted" classes.

A Canadian who wishes to own firearms takes a course administered by the RCMP. If they pass the test and background check they are given what is known as a "PAL". It is their possession and aquisition license. No PAL, no buy. Passage of a second course and its associated checks, allows them an "RPAL". That license allows possession and aquisition of the restricted class of firearms, which includes many handguns...even some AR-15 type weapons. Magazine capacity DOES matter in Canada, btw. Quite often it will determine "non-restricted" vs "restricted".

People think because they see the "No handguns in Canada" sign at the border, that they are banned. Wrong. It is because you do not have a license to possess one in Canada.

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Can a country with open borders EVER ban guns? [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 OP

Ask France. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #1

So the Charlie Hebdo massacre didn't happen then? NO GUNS? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #2

Yes, indeed it did, and it was horrifying. Do you constantly see spree killings in the headlines underahedgerow Jul 2016 #7

You see a spree killing every time spree killers want to see a spree killing Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #19

+1. A good level-headed response to the usual straw-grasping. nt villager Jul 2016 #51

You then warrant a law successful only when 100% effective? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #71

Just pointing out France and Canada both have guns, but think there is registration there SpookyDem Jul 2016 #3

You THINK they have registration? In France you have to make an application just to buy underahedgerow Jul 2016 #4

It seemed you were saying that they didnt have guns in those countries, SpookyDem Jul 2016 #6

Australia strikes me as a unique situation TeddyR Jul 2016 #26

that's true, but for example, anyone from Canada could go to Alaska or the USA and sneak underahedgerow Jul 2016 #31

Australia has an immense unguarded coastline Red Mountain Jul 2016 #60

No one breaks the law in Canada? former9thward Jul 2016 #73

Not 'no one'. But most citizens respect the law for exactly what it is. That's why society underahedgerow Jul 2016 #74

So no illegal drugs in Canada. former9thward Jul 2016 #75

What's your point? underahedgerow Jul 2016 #81

Didn't know that. Thanks for the information. SheilaT Jul 2016 #78

I agree completely. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #82

"...guns...for agricultural purposes." ??? Petrushka Jul 2016 #5

Not clear on the concept? Wild boars are a dangerous menace in the rural areas of France, underahedgerow Jul 2016 #8

On our farm "back home" in West Virginia . . . Petrushka Jul 2016 #13

I agree completely! That certainly falls under the 'agricultural purposes' realm, underahedgerow Jul 2016 #14

I forgot to mention . . . . Petrushka Jul 2016 #17

Yes and the agricultural purposes can be performed by an expanded game warden department. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #25

No, actually they can't Red Mountain Jul 2016 #61

If you start having problems with hogs, Jim Beard Jul 2016 #66

Right, ban hunting, good way to lose the vote of every rural person. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #39

lololol if you think the EU and AUS and NZ have open borders AntiBank Jul 2016 #76

Apples and oranges Major Nikon Jul 2016 #9

Guns are easy to manufacture madville Jul 2016 #10

Not necessarily for an individual, at least from scrap... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #11

Go to aprox 3:30 in this video: ret5hd Jul 2016 #30

True, I just think that if we were to remove millions of guns from circulation in this country... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #42

Agree completely. ret5hd Jul 2016 #45

If we were to remove most guns from circulation, we might have a slight uptick... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #46

I live in Switzerland. BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #12

Agreed. When an 11 year old can buy a gun in the USA, but can't buy cigarettes or underahedgerow Jul 2016 #15

+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #16

Where can an 11 year old buy a gun? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #20

This kid is 13. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #21

That transaction is illegal, far more illegal than buying a pack of cigarettes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #55

Most Swiss appreciate their duty to their fellow citizens. HassleCat Jul 2016 #53

How many calls and how long would it take you safeinOhio Jul 2016 #18

Ask Australia. Warren Stupidity Jul 2016 #22

Australia is an island in the middle of the ocean TeddyR Jul 2016 #28

Canada and Mexico have much more stringent gun control than the US. roamer65 Jul 2016 #57

Western Europe has had much lower homicide rates than the U.S. for well over 100 years. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #23

you are right edhopper Jul 2016 #24

I'm all or nothing. Continuing this dance with the NRA and gun humpers WON'T work. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #32

As long as you openly admit a complete ban is your goal, it won't be realized. Marengo Jul 2016 #38

I think it's the only way to get the message across. If the majority of people express this underahedgerow Jul 2016 #41

So you ban guns and 50% of the shootings continue. I'd call that a big friggin success. Hoyt Jul 2016 #27

None of my guns will ever take a life, Hoyt. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #35

How do you know that? Are they impossible for people to steal? Is it impossible to point them at... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #43

Impossible to steal? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #63

So you never remove them from the safe? Never go sport shooting or hunting? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #67

Well, good for you. SheilaT Jul 2016 #79

lol. your posts are getting funnier by the moment. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #29

It's a rare talent... thinking of things that bring constant ridicule. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #33

I want open borders. LWolf Jul 2016 #34

"phallic inadequacy". I love that. I KNOW my guns don't make my tiny dick bigger. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #36

Not all symptoms LWolf Jul 2016 #37

No wonder she made that weird smile and gave me a Daisy BB Gun for my B-Day! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #47

Right-o! No bother even trying. Nothing to see here! MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #40

As far as I'm aware of, Mexican cartels get's most of its guns from the United States. Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #44

Heh. Maybe via the Mexican military, via the U.S.? Or the millions in circulation... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #48

I have a question, does gun control work in Canada? Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #49

You have conflicting questions. I have no idea if gun control works in Canada. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #50

I would agree that the war on drugs has been very damaging to many places in the world... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #52

Actually, I see no evidence that the # of guns in circulation causes crime increases... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #56

I don't believe the prohibition comparison is that valid, if it were, then nations that do have... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #59

Nations with a history of low crime rates continue with that low rate, gun controls or no. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #68

Actually, per capita, criminality in the United Kingdom is higher... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #69

Interesting speculative question in your last paragraph. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #70

According to the data I linked, the rate of violence is about the same... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #72

I imagine the history goes well back to before our revolution, even further for the British. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #93

What are you talking about? The point seems to have gone over your head... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #94

I am saying that England, for whatever reason, has a lower homicide rate because... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #95

Homicide isn't an objective to most crime in the United States either, is your argument... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #96

No, homicide is NOT the objective of most crime in the U.S.... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #97

Yes, it does work in Canada. roamer65 Jul 2016 #58

Light switch question Warpy Jul 2016 #54

Unsurprisingly, yes, it is a shameful question. Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #85

You CAN ban them Red Mountain Jul 2016 #62

Sounds like a plan mwrguy Jul 2016 #65

Sure, since you asked an extreme question Eko Jul 2016 #77

Saw how well that worked with the drug trade... TipTok Jul 2016 #80

It worked very well Eko Jul 2016 #83

Name a city in the United States where there is no marijuana, meth, or heroin. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #87

Uh, Eko Jul 2016 #88

Don't put words in my mouth. You said in states were drugs were illegal, they weren't "everywhere". cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #89

Its a simple fact Eko Jul 2016 #90

That's not what you said. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #91

Its not Eko Jul 2016 #92

Can an island with a wide open coastline malaise Jul 2016 #84

Hint: They haven't. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #86