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jmg257

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10. "Wild West" not so wild...and it seems the govt had little to do with that...
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jul 2016
The Culture of Violence in the American West: Myth versus Reality
By Thomas J. DiLorenzo
This article appeared in the Fall 2010 issue of The Independent Review

Contrary to popular perception, the Old West was much more peaceful than American cities are today. The real culture of violence on the frontier during the latter half of the nineteenth century sprang from the U.S. government’s policies toward the Plains Indians.
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In contrast, an alternative literature based on actual history concludes that the civil society of the American West in the nineteenth century was not very violent. Eugene Hollon writes that the western frontier “was a far more civilized, more peaceful and safer place than American society today” (1974, x). Terry Anderson and P. J. Hill affirm that although “[t]he West . . . is perceived as a place of great chaos, with little respect for property or life,” their research “indicates that this was not the case; property rights were protected and civil order prevailed. Private agencies provided the necessary basis for an orderly society in which property was protected and conflicts were resolved” (1979, 10)."


http://www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?a=803

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I think I found the problem here -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #1
Maybe it wasn't tested in courts because people saw it as a reasonable way to be safer. Rose Siding Jul 2016 #4
Perhaps, but they also thought exercising overt racism against the Chinese also kept them safer. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #6
That's not the kind of logic I'd hang my hat on Rose Siding Jul 2016 #8
There is no connection to Bundy wearing pants and his crimes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #9
All of which has exactly nothing to do with a town having sensible gun laws applied to everyone Rose Siding Jul 2016 #29
What gun law would have stopped any of the killings by or of the police? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #30
I just got a mental image of a lot of heavily armed, pants-less men running around Squinch Jul 2016 #26
In all cattle towns there was a railroad line thru the town. oneshooter Jul 2016 #33
Santorum claimed everyone in the West had guns. Three Pinocchios. rug Jul 2016 #2
Thanks rug malaise Jul 2016 #7
Well, open carry is legal in Tombstone these days. panader0 Jul 2016 #11
Stay safe malaise Jul 2016 #12
Adam Winkler UCLA law prof Mendocino Jul 2016 #3
Thanks Mendocino malaise Jul 2016 #5
Thanks, I'm going to check that out treestar Jul 2016 #17
"Wild West" not so wild...and it seems the govt had little to do with that... jmg257 Jul 2016 #10
Thanks malaise Jul 2016 #13
Understood. Worth giving some thought to! nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #15
"Private agencies pridded the ... Ilsa Jul 2016 #27
When I was young, it was ok to take guns to school during bird and deer season. Kaleva Jul 2016 #14
My great grandmas were wild west. hunter Jul 2016 #16
" I still think most people with guns are fools". That explains it. beevul Jul 2016 #18
Well, take for example the police... hunter Jul 2016 #21
Good example. beevul Jul 2016 #22
What are you talking about??? hunter Jul 2016 #23
Thats right. You don't even know me. beevul Jul 2016 #24
Do you imagine using your guns for self defense or as a means of projecting your authority? hunter Jul 2016 #28
No, I imagine them keeping the coyotes from eating my little furry ones, as they have in the past. beevul Jul 2016 #32
I've got plenty of experience with coyotes. My mom's favorite dog got eaten by one when I was a kid. hunter Jul 2016 #35
Nice post malaise Jul 2016 #20
My grandmamas and aunts weren't Wild West, Are_grits_groceries Jul 2016 #34
Well, we know what they didn't do. beevul Jul 2016 #19
No, there are a few websites. Igel Jul 2016 #25
Thanks for a great response malaise Jul 2016 #36
The murder rate in the "wild west" was always significantly lower than the East Recursion Jul 2016 #31
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