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hunter

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16. My great grandmas were wild west.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jul 2016

They didn't tolerate fools with guns and they were the only law that mattered. Fools and their guns were soon parted.

As a child on several occasions I witnessed my mom going full Berserker on fools with guns. (I may be a little PTSD about it.)

My mom's grandma owned the original family homestead. She regarded hunters from the city as a lower life form that endangered her children, cattle, and dogs. She once told me a very un-great-grandmotherly story about a hunter she confronted as he was taking a runny shit. Poor fellow got the hell out of there and drove back home soiling the seat of his fancy truck.

My name is Hunter, and yes, I've hunted animals for dinner, but I still think most people with guns are fools, the police included.

I live in an exceptionally violent U.S. city. It's "Wild West" in a different way. The police are perpetually understaffed and don't respond promptly to calls unless someone is dead, bleeding profusely, or on fire. For most anything else they'll ask you to file a report on their internet site, or if you can't do that, to come down to the station to file your report in person. Visiting the station is a trip. The clerks sit behind bullet proof glass, you sign in, and wait for your name to be called. The people you are waiting with are far more diverse than the "Group W" bench of Alice's Restaurant.

I've confronted people with guns, I've been confronted by people with guns, and I've seen shootings. When my kids were young, and we were living in a rougher neighborhood, we were out playing in the yard one day. I heard an angry confrontation near our house and saw, over the fence, a police officer shoot a man in the chest. I was glad my kids couldn't see over the fence. We followed our usual gunfire drill of retreating to the back bedroom to play on the floor until it was all over. The guy I saw shot that day lived. Our paramedics and emergency rooms are well practiced with gunshot victims. But the same guy was killed a few years later by a rival gang.

I've never been in a situation that might have turned out better had I been carrying a gun. Once the guns come out everything is FUBAR, and outcomes are pretty random and grim no matter who has the guns, "good" guy or bad. I've no desire to participate in that sort of madness.

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I think I found the problem here -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #1
Maybe it wasn't tested in courts because people saw it as a reasonable way to be safer. Rose Siding Jul 2016 #4
Perhaps, but they also thought exercising overt racism against the Chinese also kept them safer. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #6
That's not the kind of logic I'd hang my hat on Rose Siding Jul 2016 #8
There is no connection to Bundy wearing pants and his crimes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #9
All of which has exactly nothing to do with a town having sensible gun laws applied to everyone Rose Siding Jul 2016 #29
What gun law would have stopped any of the killings by or of the police? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #30
I just got a mental image of a lot of heavily armed, pants-less men running around Squinch Jul 2016 #26
In all cattle towns there was a railroad line thru the town. oneshooter Jul 2016 #33
Santorum claimed everyone in the West had guns. Three Pinocchios. rug Jul 2016 #2
Thanks rug malaise Jul 2016 #7
Well, open carry is legal in Tombstone these days. panader0 Jul 2016 #11
Stay safe malaise Jul 2016 #12
Adam Winkler UCLA law prof Mendocino Jul 2016 #3
Thanks Mendocino malaise Jul 2016 #5
Thanks, I'm going to check that out treestar Jul 2016 #17
"Wild West" not so wild...and it seems the govt had little to do with that... jmg257 Jul 2016 #10
Thanks malaise Jul 2016 #13
Understood. Worth giving some thought to! nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #15
"Private agencies pridded the ... Ilsa Jul 2016 #27
When I was young, it was ok to take guns to school during bird and deer season. Kaleva Jul 2016 #14
My great grandmas were wild west. hunter Jul 2016 #16
" I still think most people with guns are fools". That explains it. beevul Jul 2016 #18
Well, take for example the police... hunter Jul 2016 #21
Good example. beevul Jul 2016 #22
What are you talking about??? hunter Jul 2016 #23
Thats right. You don't even know me. beevul Jul 2016 #24
Do you imagine using your guns for self defense or as a means of projecting your authority? hunter Jul 2016 #28
No, I imagine them keeping the coyotes from eating my little furry ones, as they have in the past. beevul Jul 2016 #32
I've got plenty of experience with coyotes. My mom's favorite dog got eaten by one when I was a kid. hunter Jul 2016 #35
Nice post malaise Jul 2016 #20
My grandmamas and aunts weren't Wild West, Are_grits_groceries Jul 2016 #34
Well, we know what they didn't do. beevul Jul 2016 #19
No, there are a few websites. Igel Jul 2016 #25
Thanks for a great response malaise Jul 2016 #36
The murder rate in the "wild west" was always significantly lower than the East Recursion Jul 2016 #31
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