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Initech

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70. I quote the Joker in the Dark Knight:

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:32 PM

Jul 2016

"I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this city with a few drums of gas and a couple of bullets. Hmmm? You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds! "

It's pretty much exactly what happened here. Nobody batted an eye at Orlando or Sandy Hook or San Bernardino or Paris, gun sales went through the roof every time there's a mass shooting. But a couple of police get shot - OMG it's total freak out mode!

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I don't get why people freak out over the dead cops in Dallas. [View all] DetlefK Jul 2016 OP

Only white people get to use "Second Amendment Solutions". baldguy Jul 2016 #1

Yup. And Malaise is right -- wouldn't Hortensis Jul 2016 #8

Not according to name removed malaise Jul 2016 #11

That one never agrees with anyone here! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2016 #30

The first one was a first post malaise Jul 2016 #38

Damn, I miss all the fun. MH1 Jul 2016 #44

Got taken care of too quickly malaise Jul 2016 #48

Ok, gotta ask. Who was Message Auto Removed? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #50

The first one was a first time poster malaise Jul 2016 #53

That one I had figured. I guess for the 2nd one, it would be Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #55

All those options are only for malaise Jul 2016 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #10

And remember now, Walsh has warned Obama that "real America" is coming after him. Jitter65 Jul 2016 #3

Sadly, not many people are freaked out by the fatally shot police in Dallas, TX aikoaiko Jul 2016 #4

I know where you're trying to go with this but it's pretty ridiculous. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #5

If the point of the second amendment is to be able to shoot at government employees jberryhill Jul 2016 #9

"...you don't get to decide when it is 'appropriate' for someone else to do so." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #12

Pretty big "if". The whole point of the 2nd was so that the people jmg257 Jul 2016 #17

I suppose shooter, like George Zimmerman, could say he was in fear for his life. Hoyt Jul 2016 #14

Do you support the right to self defense? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #15

Not the way you gunners view self-defense or the odds of needing a gun in your pants. Hoyt Jul 2016 #18

Fortunately the world doesn't have any requirement to live by your personal standards... TipTok Jul 2016 #19

Your personal prejudices, like all other personal prejudices, are immaterial. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #24

Suppose he had got the upper hand and shot the cop treestar Jul 2016 #67

do you support the right of citizens to use arms to overthrow a tyrannical government? KittyWampus Jul 2016 #22

Yes. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #23

Maybe we don't want your version -- or other armed group's -- of what our government should be. Hoyt Jul 2016 #28

I want a government where POC of color can exercise their rights without fear. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #32

Assuming that is why you arm up, there are more who don't want that and are willing to arm up. Hoyt Jul 2016 #34

Philando Castile was lawfully exercising his rights. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #39

If Castile, McVeigh, Lanza, etc., didn't have that option, I think we'd all be better off. Hoyt Jul 2016 #40

You're lumping Philando Castile in with Timothy McVeigh and Adam Lanza? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #42

Maybe so, but your support of more guns to stop police brutality is similarly deranged. Hoyt Jul 2016 #43

First, gain enough integrity to not put words into people's mouths then you're allowed to address me Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #45

"Allowed to address you" -- LMAO Hoyt Jul 2016 #47

Did you really just compare a lawfully armed, murdered black man to adam lanza? beevul Jul 2016 #58

Stop reading one word at a time while pointing. I said if people didn't carry guns we'd all be bette Hoyt Jul 2016 #60

Bullshit. beevul Jul 2016 #61

Like the 2nd Amendment you left out the rest of the sentence and context. Hoyt Jul 2016 #62

The context is not an acceptable excuse. beevul Jul 2016 #64

all had the right to bear arms treestar Jul 2016 #92

How many times sarisataka Jul 2016 #86

There is one of two ways sarisataka Jul 2016 #87

That's the assumption. Igel Jul 2016 #69

Supposing an army developed treestar Jul 2016 #68

People claim all sorts of things. That some people make claims that are wrong or that I do not Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #75

What if an army developed treestar Jul 2016 #89

Are their claims legitimate? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #90

to them they are treestar Jul 2016 #91

"who gets to decide?" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #93

No. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #25

Do you think 6 year olds should be allowed to vote? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #33

but, but heaven05 Jul 2016 #36

No this was about a political statement made by the other side, re "second amendment remedies" MH1 Jul 2016 #46

No it wasn't treestar Jul 2016 #66

Bingo eom IL Lib Jul 2016 #77

I hope you meant Soxfan58 Jul 2016 #6

I needed a click-bait title. DetlefK Jul 2016 #13

I agree. It doesn't take much for a "good guy" with a gun to go off. Fight with spouse, Hoyt Jul 2016 #16

Go hunting for some pre-cogs so you can identify who is going to commit a crime.. TipTok Jul 2016 #21

Could it be that this is the desired outcome? Jerry442 Jul 2016 #26

I would like to know how many police officers kacekwl Jul 2016 #35

I know that in Pennsylvania, police organizations usually favor whatever meager gun control MH1 Jul 2016 #49

Here is one... jmg257 Jul 2016 #52

This is a survey of police officers. I think Question #5 most closely, though not directly, answers Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #54

WOW I am surprised. kacekwl Jul 2016 #88

"Most cops are good people." avebury Jul 2016 #41

Add to that the never-ending wars malaise Jul 2016 #51

"War is good for nothing but killing" frankieallen Jul 2016 #81

Ever heard of Iraq malaise Jul 2016 #83

yes, I have heard or Iraq. Is Iraq "all wars"? I never said all wars were justified. frankieallen Jul 2016 #84

The wild west had strict gun control in that you weren't allowed to have guns Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #20

Wasn't that the trigger for the OK Corral shoot-out? jmg257 Jul 2016 #37

They didn't want to return give them up Ohioblue22 Jul 2016 #57

Which applied only to carrying in town. beevul Jul 2016 #59

Like most of this thread, it's using a broad brush to paint a picture with a thousand little flowers Igel Jul 2016 #71

I am sure the board room of the NRA is celebrating the success of their randr Jul 2016 #27

Because the remedies are supposed to be for white people. Black peeps ain't supposed to be allowed Hoppy Jul 2016 #29

Insurection SheriffBob Jul 2016 #31

15% increase in cops death this yr. 71% murdered by whites. That is a significant increase. seabeyond Jul 2016 #56

Where was this anger when the 2 Las Vegas cops were killed by that couple who were Bundy Followers? maryellen99 Jul 2016 #63

Food for thought treestar Jul 2016 #65

I quote the Joker in the Dark Knight: Initech Jul 2016 #70

That quote also came to my mind. DetlefK Jul 2016 #74

"Nobody batted an eye at Orlando or Sandy Hook or San Bernardino or Paris" Huh? Where is that true? jmg257 Jul 2016 #78

I meant that because Congress doesn't do jack shit when it comes to guns. Initech Jul 2016 #82

Ah - got ya - understood. nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #85

it assumes a certain amount of communalism. Igel Jul 2016 #72

The fact you don't get it seems to be a personal problem... TipTok Jul 2016 #73

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense TeddyR Jul 2016 #76

Good thing to point out to antigovernment gun lovers Warpy Jul 2016 #79

Good post. That's the culture they and we have allowed for a long time. nt wiggs Jul 2016 #80