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Tal Vez

(660 posts)
28. I just don't feel comfortable viewing Clinton as an employee
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jul 2016

waiting for my directions as to how to win a national election. I acknowledge that she and her team are more capable than I at making those kinds of political judgements. And, the presidency requires a leader, not a follower.

My understanding is that Senator Sanders is planning to soon endorse Clinton. We will learn then whether Sanders was a leader or merely a mouthpiece for a group of voters with a narrow range of interests. Will he be capable of leading and influencing his supporters to support Clinton? Or was Senator Sanders just taking direction from his supporters all along? Maybe that is why his campaign fell short of winning the nomination.

As to the political strategies of the last 30 years, I can only say that my life was more improved by the electoral strategy of Bill Clinton than by the electoral strategy of George McGovern. I don't remember disagreeing with McGovern about anything, but the utter failure of his campaign taught me a lesson in humility at an early age. I learned in 1972 that it might be better for the country if my candidate designs a successful campaign, even if that means that he/she fails to actively campaign on each and every one of my personal political sentiments. Part of what I am asking for in a candidate is leadership, someone who can find the best path to victory.

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Robert Reich is just pissed his guy lost. stopbush Jul 2016 #1
Bull shit. elleng Jul 2016 #2
Oh, I think Barney Frank knows what's in Dodd Frank stopbush Jul 2016 #5
Blustery barney. He knows every loophole. George Eliot Jul 2016 #17
Reich is the one posting apoplectic articles on HuffPo every other week. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #24
I heard that he also left Bill Clinton's administration under less than amicable terms. Sour grapes? George II Jul 2016 #9
There's this: stopbush Jul 2016 #10
He's got a vineyard's worth of sour grapes, that's for sure. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #23
No way does Barnie Frank have Reich's intellect nor knowledge PufPuf23 Jul 2016 #31
Your opinion. Not quantifiable beyond the extent stopbush Jul 2016 #38
Reich is convinced that opposing the TPP in the platform is good politics. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #3
Reich is convinced that the TPP bad policy. He is correct. Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #8
We get to do policy only if we first win the election. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #13
TPP is an 800# gorilla and failing to oppose it could give Herr Drumpf room to run to the left, Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #15
When the question concerns political strategy, Tal Vez Jul 2016 #18
I have heard a lot of chatter around the notion that the Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #20
So the question is one of political strategy? seabeckind Jul 2016 #22
I just don't feel comfortable viewing Clinton as an employee Tal Vez Jul 2016 #28
Gee, here I've been confused all these years by that "gov't for the people" phrase. seabeckind Jul 2016 #29
I am just relating to you my personal experience. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #30
From my personal experience, I think actions after the election are important. seabeckind Jul 2016 #32
We don't disagree about the importance of actions after the election. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #33
So far Mr. Reich's analysis of the 2016 primaries has not been that accurate. Bernie Sanders still_one Jul 2016 #4
“But it’s terrible policy. And it’s awful politics. It gives Trump a battering ram. AntiBank Jul 2016 #6
Now starts the loyalty oath. sangfroid Jul 2016 #7
Reich is the genius who talked Bill Clinton into NAFTA, and bragged about pnwmom Jul 2016 #11
The unions, environmental, indigenous, human rights groups and many top Democrats are opposed think Jul 2016 #12
Absolutely, elleng Jul 2016 #14
Warren thinks it's bad. She's held in high esteem. George Eliot Jul 2016 #16
Warren is a problem. HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #21
Gets her out out those pesky congressional hearings. seabeckind Jul 2016 #26
“Actually, the real cynic is you." nt bemildred Jul 2016 #19
Trade isn't the issue. Trade control is the issue. seabeckind Jul 2016 #25
Cool Story, Robert. KittyWampus Jul 2016 #27
The TPP is bad policy because it puts corporations above the The Second Stone Jul 2016 #34
It's almost like the Federal Reserve model, isn't it? n/t seabeckind Jul 2016 #35
The Federal Reserve is run for the benefit of the American people The Second Stone Jul 2016 #36
Whether the bankers take it seriously or not is irrelevant. seabeckind Jul 2016 #37
I'd change it to putting the nation's economy first and that the gov't The Second Stone Jul 2016 #39
Some things I compromise on, some I don't. seabeckind Jul 2016 #40
My life opinions were formed for the most part decades ago The Second Stone Jul 2016 #41
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