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SheilaT

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53. Yes, they should have. They should have been speaking out on this issue all along.

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:31 PM

Jul 2016

I also think that perhaps a good way to get actual gun control of some kind would be for every single newspaper do a big front page article every single time there is a death from a gun in their circulation area. And an article not very far inside of the woundings from guns. Every single local news broadcast should lead with that coverage. In some big cities (Chicago comes to mind) the front page and the entire half hour local news would be nearly all coverage of shootings.

But maybe people would finally figure out just how terrible the toll is.

I'm sincerely sorry that it has taken the mass shooting of cops for people to start caring so much. 20 school children were just a yawn. 49 people in a gay nightclub, who cares? But 5 police officers all at once actually created an attention span.

Don't get me wrong. I do not condone what happened in Dallas. But if you think about it, it's somewhat surprising that someone hasn't targeted cops before this. Maybe, just maybe, the NRA will finally lose all credibility.

I can only hope.

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OMFG - turn on Dr Brian Williams right now [View all] malaise Jul 2016 OP

Gunners and NRA have opposed primary care physicians even asking families about guns in house. Hoyt Jul 2016 #1

Everyone at the table here is exposing racism malaise Jul 2016 #3

As you know there was more to that than what you wrote. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #41

The doctor made a valid point to a gun yahoo, maybe saved a life. AND YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT LAW. Hoyt Jul 2016 #46

You need to reread what I wrote and the wapo article more carefully aikoaiko Jul 2016 #59

And my original post said docs can't ask about guns and you came back with some gunner crud. Hoyt Jul 2016 #62

Still the stupid law prevented a greater stupidity and it still allowed docs to provide safety info. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #66

Brochures aren't much help to smokers, much less yahoos addicted to gunz. A doc Hoyt Jul 2016 #70

Yeah I see what you think is necessary. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #91

Can't believe that last picture. The women smiles as her baby touches when she IMO should be Person 2713 Jul 2016 #80

I ask every patient if they have access to weapons gwheezie Jul 2016 #102

Would you deny services if some said I'd rather not answer that question? aikoaiko Jul 2016 #103

Nope gwheezie Jul 2016 #106

Same with parents taking kids to pediatricians. Ilsa Jul 2016 #67

Insurance companies need to ask the same. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #2

They do hack89 Jul 2016 #4

Glaring omission, isn't it? hunter Jul 2016 #38

Mine have never asked about guns, but they sure ask about pools, dogs and wood-burning fireplaces. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #52

They understand the true risk that guns present hack89 Jul 2016 #56

They understand there is not much coverage for bodily injury if you shoot someone. That's main Hoyt Jul 2016 #58

It has more to do with how rare accidents are hack89 Jul 2016 #60

How many gunners are like you -- no loaded guns for home defense, and none in their pants standing Hoyt Jul 2016 #61

The great majority, I would think, based on gun violence statistics. hack89 Jul 2016 #63

You have a strange tolerance for unnecessary deaths by irresponsible gun owners, including those Hoyt Jul 2016 #64

Your fears and prejudices, like most, are irrational. hack89 Jul 2016 #65

If the insured's dog bites a visiting toddler the insurance company has to pay out. hunter Jul 2016 #68

They do pay out for gun accidents but not for criminal acts. hack89 Jul 2016 #69

Dogs and hot tubs are rarely exempt as "criminal acts" yet guns are? hunter Jul 2016 #71

+1,000 malaise Jul 2016 #72

The concept of "criminal acts" is not complicated hack89 Jul 2016 #73

So, what's the overall social cost of gun fuckery? hunter Jul 2016 #74

Now you understand why insurance companies refuse to cover criminal acts hack89 Jul 2016 #76

Gun control? Do I seek to control your guns? hunter Jul 2016 #77

Many controllers fantasize about high insurance premiums as a bar to gun ownership. hack89 Jul 2016 #78

Piss on guns, piss on "insurance" too. hunter Jul 2016 #81

I appreciate your words hack89 Jul 2016 #83

People like me have experienced bloody reality. hunter Jul 2016 #84

I am a combat veteran hack89 Jul 2016 #85

What's the real threat? hunter Jul 2016 #86

Alcohol and drugs are what kill people where I live hack89 Jul 2016 #87

Lucky for you. hunter Jul 2016 #88

No real point hack89 Jul 2016 #89

My gun stories are awesome! What's the matter with you? hunter Jul 2016 #90

So? hack89 Jul 2016 #92

If you were mine I might take your guns. hunter Jul 2016 #95

Ok. Nt hack89 Jul 2016 #96

Are you us? hunter Jul 2016 #97

I am me and me alone. Nt hack89 Jul 2016 #98

That's sad. hunter Jul 2016 #100

What does that mean, "are you us"? Marengo Jul 2016 #105

What do you mean "fear for your guns"? What would you do? Marengo Jul 2016 #104

Absolutely gut-wrenching. His heart is broken. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #5

I expect to hear more from doctors everywhere malaise Jul 2016 #6

^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #8

This is amazing - all of them are amazing malaise Jul 2016 #11

The contrast with the talking yam's campaign screed just minutes earlier Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #17

I switched from him malaise Jul 2016 #25

It was heartbreaking and very powerful... Spazito Jul 2016 #7

He's speaking again malaise Jul 2016 #9

Why don't doctors and medical schools malaise Jul 2016 #13

Perhaps this group will bring more out to speak publicly. It has to begin somewhere. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #21

Because unfortunately, a lot of docs are VERY right wing. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #23

Actually the AMA took a pretty big step in June after Orlando. Hoyt Jul 2016 #26

Thanks for this malaise Jul 2016 #29

The AMA is fairly conservative and late to the game here. But they are a big lobby and can make Hoyt Jul 2016 #31

I think some have tried, the CDC has been almost absent, though, on this issue... Spazito Jul 2016 #32

I want to see how this is covered malaise Jul 2016 #34

I agree... Spazito Jul 2016 #37

CBC is up there with the best malaise Jul 2016 #39

It really is, it has been my mainstay even for US news... Spazito Jul 2016 #44

One of my favorite links malaise Jul 2016 #47

Very cool! Spazito Jul 2016 #82

The CDC is absent on this issue because a few years ago Congress passed a law SheilaT Jul 2016 #43

That's true... Spazito Jul 2016 #45

I'm sure if the CDC or any of its employees or representatives had spoken out, SheilaT Jul 2016 #48

Relative to the subject at hand, the doctors who spoke out today... Spazito Jul 2016 #50

The Medical Schools, Doctors, Nurses and others in the profession should have malaise Jul 2016 #49

Yes, they should have. They should have been speaking out on this issue all along. SheilaT Jul 2016 #53

The most amazing thing at Don the Con's rally today was the cheering when he spoke about the cops malaise Jul 2016 #57

My understanding is the CDC was prevented from gun-control advocacy, not research. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #10

"7 other people ready"... what does that mean exactly? yodermon Jul 2016 #19

So sorry..this was misread on MSNBC news ticker.. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #22

That was so powerful. pamela Jul 2016 #12

All of them were powerful malaise Jul 2016 #14

The NRA is just the lobbying arm of gun manufacturers Angry Dragon Jul 2016 #15

Exactly. That is all they are. Nothing more. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #18

HERE: Through the eyes of the NRA profiteers misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #27

Besides gun profiteers, here are a few other NRA board members: Hoyt Jul 2016 #40

This Press conf is amazing. Pretty raw with the truth of who these people are. misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #16

It was amazing malaise Jul 2016 #20

OMG!! MSNBC's Brian Williams is now claiming to be a doctor?? madinmaryland Jul 2016 #24

You win the thread - this one malaise Jul 2016 #28

I swear I read that and thought the same thing.LOL..n/t monmouth4 Jul 2016 #33

Well I did say oh clearly not lyin Williams malaise Jul 2016 #42

K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2016 #30

How amazing was that flamingdem Jul 2016 #35

He was the most forthright at the beginning malaise Jul 2016 #36

If you can watch that and not be affected mountain grammy Jul 2016 #51

So true malaise Jul 2016 #55

KNR Lucinda Jul 2016 #75

Another link malaise Jul 2016 #79

What an unfortunate name. AngryAmish Jul 2016 #93

LOL malaise Jul 2016 #94

No matter his station..every black male has been profiled HipChick Jul 2016 #99

K&R stage left Jul 2016 #101

Saw a report on ABC, Miami this morning malaise Jul 2016 #107