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Lee-Lee

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26. Buy backs are just publicity stunts that rip off inner city residents anyway
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:22 AM
Jul 2016

Economists have studied various crime reduction methods and found gun buy backs to the be the absolute most inefficient means of reduce violent crime.

Why? First, they are so small in scale and the average gun is so unlikely to be used in a crime that you would need to be buck tens or hundreds of guns before you have statistically taken enough off the street to prevent one from being misused.

Second, criminals don't take their guns to buy backs, especially when most only give a fraction of the real value (most buy backs give only $50 or $100) and that is even less than the street value. A person who would misuse a gun isn't going to take a $50 gift card when they can get $500 cash for an illegal sale.

And gun buy backs rip a lot of poor, inner city people who have no clue what a gun is worth off by giving them a $50 gift card for a rare WWII pistol or rifle that was their grandfathers and is worth $500-5000 to collectors. The vast majority of the guns turned in are worth far, far more than the buy back pays them, but they prey on the ignorance people who are most likely to surrender the guns have about the value.

When I was a deputy we often had calls like "'my dad died and had guns and I just want them gone I don't know what to do with them" and every time we ended up looking at what they had and telling the caller that we could take them but that they were worth far more if they took them in to a reputable licensed gun dealer and sold them. Sometimes it was tens of thousands of dollars in expensive guns, I remember one time the guy had several trap shooting shotguns that were beautiful Italian made guns worth over $5000 each.

In reality gun buy backs are good for two things only. The main one is publicity stunts for politicians. The second is the "no questions asked no names taken" type give criminals a good way to get rid of guns that might have forensic links to crimes without risking it comes back to them.

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Why am I NOT suprised that police are also taking part in gun laundering? Lancero Jul 2016 #1
I wonder how many of these have been used to plant on people? SkeleTim1968 Jul 2016 #2
Disgusting. So buy backs are just a scam run by the biggest armed gang around. brush Jul 2016 #3
Wrong. Straw Man Jul 2016 #8
Buy back at a "nominal" fee or, the gun amnesty programs where guns are turned in for . . . brush Jul 2016 #12
Tell me ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #22
Not rocket science. If cops complain about too many guns . . . brush Jul 2016 #23
Rocket science? Straw Man Jul 2016 #25
Sounds like double talk to me. They should take the opportunity to destroy the guns . . . brush Jul 2016 #28
Promised? Straw Man Jul 2016 #30
Good, that's exactly what should happen petronius Jul 2016 #4
It puts them back on the street under the false pretense that they are being taken off of the street SkeleTim1968 Jul 2016 #5
The only real benefit from drug busts... Jerry442 Jul 2016 #7
Your analogy would hold up ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #10
See post #7 updated. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #15
Allow me to retort. Straw Man Jul 2016 #21
When drugs become legal, I expect that may happen. Why throw away a good commodity? jmg257 Jul 2016 #11
See post #7 updated Jerry442 Jul 2016 #16
Ah - thanks - now that makes much more sense. If people turning in guns really are concerned jmg257 Jul 2016 #18
Your editorial analogy is flawed to the point of failure, in several ways: petronius Jul 2016 #14
See post #7 updated Jerry442 Jul 2016 #17
They should be removed from circulation entirely, melted down and recycled... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #6
Too bad I don't own a welding shop near one of these places. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #13
Yeah, too bad. Straw Man Jul 2016 #31
So the gun makers can make a replacement? krispos42 Jul 2016 #20
Its nothing like burning a "satanic" album or book, do those albums or books increase the... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #32
Yeah it is krispos42 Jul 2016 #33
You do bring up a good point, I would also advocate for an elimination in the production of... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #34
Did you hear about this? HockeyMom Jul 2016 #29
Since a "buy BACK" suggests a former owner, turn them over to the manufacturer.... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #9
I think it's the law in Georgia. Police must sell confiscated guns to FFLs. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #19
So damned discouraging. Sooner or later the people who need their lives sane will win. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #24
Buy backs are just publicity stunts that rip off inner city residents anyway Lee-Lee Jul 2016 #26
I love gun buybacks Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #27
wonder if this tune would change if the dallas shooter used a buy back resold gun to shoot the cops dembotoz Jul 2016 #35
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