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In reply to the discussion: Slain Dallas Cop Might’ve Been A White Supremacist: Still A Hero? [View all]Igel
(37,550 posts)If there's one-on-one interaction between anybody and police and the "anybody" is killed, what do you want to do?
What's the likelihood that (a) the police knew about anything bad in the anybody's past and (b) what's the likelihood that that "anything bad" continued into the interaction with the police.
I don't see an interaction here that's not mediated by a lot of distance and a bullet. Nothing the dead cops said mattered to the guy hundreds of feet away who'd already planned to commit race-based murder of cops. Nothing that these dead cops had done was probably known to the bigoted hater. Nothing that they did to him could have mattered, because the only interaction was one-sided and consisted of bullets.
Castile. Did he have a problem getting pulled over? Yes, and the records show that. It's evidence that he was profiled. Some have twisted this to making it an attack on him, but the attack was hidden in the defense: He had an awful lot of actual violations, sometimes stacked because he was cited and didn't take measures he should have. Does that justify his death? Only to the extent that it shows how he'd continue interacting when faced with an actual cop, and, to be honest, I don't know what his record shows in that regard. Because, again, while the evidence for the attack is there, it's weak. And it wasn't the reason, except in the minds of those who have one answer for every question and every fact, and probably always will.
Sterling. He'd had a record of violence or at least belligerence. Does that mean he didn't act fully compliant with police requests and have a respectful attitude? No. However, it shows that he wasn't a milquetoast uberpacifist who was nice and helpful to everybody around. If he'd been shot from 200 yards by somebody who didn't ever interact with him, none of this would have mattered in the least. As it is, it is relevant to trying to understand what *might* have happened. Essentially, "Is his behavior consistent with what's reported?"
Notice: Similar reports, but different motives for presenting the information.
In Ahrens' case, there is no behavior to report. He was there. He was killed.
Still curious, though. I have to believe that the iron cross on the right ring finger, the Christian crusader's shield, and the Thor's hammer denoting neo-paganism, all fit together. He's a resolute Odin-worshiping RW Christian. And he is all those things at once because some Asatru folk are white supremacists and some Crusader's shield folk are white supremacists. And the connecting link is, apparently, that he worked somewhere in Los Angeles when one precinct was riddled with racists. I wonder if he was anywhere near that precinct. Nah, doesn't matter. If they were racists, we know he was a racist so it's simply unvarnished truth that he must have worked there.