General Discussion

angrychair

(11,639 posts)

8. H1B visas are bullshit

Reply to Human101948 (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 03:54 PM

Jul 2016

No, it is not some "America first" xenophobic nonsense.
It is a totally different and unique issue.
I have been in the IT industry for 20 years and H1B visas are a valid tool to temporarily fill positions that are in significant demand and no ability to fill that need.
More importantly, if there is a significant need for a particular technical skill or discipline than those companies should be working with their respective state's university system and unemployment office to fill that need on a permanent basis.

Sadly, that is not what is happening.

Wages in the IT industry are becoming more and more stagnant and, depending on your education and training, harder to find a decent paying job with a reasonable schedule and benefits.
IT companies should not be allowed to use H1B visas as a permanent fix or as a way to get around prevailing wage and benefits to take advantage of a person from a poorer country.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

44 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Clinton Calms Silicon Valley’s Worries, Promises To Preserve High-Skill Visas [View all] Human101948 Jul 2016 OP

Preserving H1B visas is part of a comprehensive approach bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #1

They're not cheap shots, worked in IT and the contracting companies out and out lied about ... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #3

Recruiting companies lying bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #5

Disney workers replaced Cayenne Jul 2016 #4

I'm not requiring "workers" to believe anything bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #6

So screw overpaid Americans? Cayenne Jul 2016 #11

Why do you hate America? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #12

Why do you not express concern ... GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #40

Why don't you care more for good white decent 'Murkan's, you mean? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #43

Bullshit. Having worked for a fortune 100 telecom, I can tell you it's all about driving wages down. X_Digger Jul 2016 #22

Is there anything there to bolster displacement laws? We don't need to worry about visas if the ... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #7

Lack of both nuance and context once again... typical. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #9

H1B visas are bullshit angrychair Jul 2016 #8

The contempt for American workers is appalling Cayenne Jul 2016 #14

There's no consensus - in the economist and social science community at least - Politicub Jul 2016 #19

I saw it first hand, as a hiring manager. I know what we paid US workers vs H1Bs for the same job. X_Digger Jul 2016 #23

Sounds like a shitty company with shitty policies Politicub Jul 2016 #25

Agree bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #26

Bullshit. There is no lack of talent. X_Digger Jul 2016 #29

Data? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #34

Every company that I've worked for that used H1bs was the same. X_Digger Jul 2016 #28

You're a focus group of one Politicub Jul 2016 #30

What skills specifically do the US workers NOT have gd770226 Jul 2016 #36

There's not enough - it's not that people are getting turned down Politicub Jul 2016 #38

No they wouldn't. Statistical Jul 2016 #37

That doesn't describe where I work Politicub Jul 2016 #39

The Canadians seem to manage ... GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #41

Well, Canada Politicub Jul 2016 #42

HB1s are important Politicub Jul 2016 #10

Important for the rich, not the workers Cayenne Jul 2016 #13

Unless you're a person with an HB1 Politicub Jul 2016 #17

And the US citizens displaced do not depend on their jobs for their livelihood? gd770226 Jul 2016 #20

Just wait for mass automation - HB1s will seem quaint in comparison Politicub Jul 2016 #27

Call me crazy, I think we should try to find Americans for domestic jobs before importing workers. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #15

Borders bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #24

I agree. My husband works in IT and the vast majority of the H1Bs prayin4rain Jul 2016 #35

I guess I will be sitting out this election. modem77 Jul 2016 #16

That makes zero sense Politicub Jul 2016 #18

Why should anybody vote for somebody that flat out supports a program that takes jobs away. gd770226 Jul 2016 #21

one thing for absolutely certain, Trump will do the same and worse. Ignore his mouthy rhetoric. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #32

Won't vote from Trump either gd770226 Jul 2016 #33

There are Americans skilled for those jobs. Wtf? onecaliberal Jul 2016 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #44