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Akamai

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21. You bet -- a great podcast posting on "This Is Hell" The current issue, "Into the spiral" is very,

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:08 PM

Jul 2016

very informative, about how the Bush debacle brought about the unraveling of the middle east, and how we now have war forever.

Very thoughtful and searing podcast episode.

Also, what crap about showing this stuff breathlessly on tv. Hartmann calls it "terrorism porn" and I agree.

This is exactly what terrorists want. We have to ignore this stuff as the Israelis have learned to do many years ago.

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BLOWBACK...... [View all] Boxerfan Jul 2016 OP

Wow... thats.....amazing. bdwker Jul 2016 #1

Of course. They overthrew dictators who were keeping a lid on these nuts NightWatcher Jul 2016 #2

Agreed. The fired Iraqi army became ISIS, led by its generals and colonels. brush Jul 2016 #3

And gave all the rebuilding jobs to Halliburton, Bechtel, etc, using imported supplies and labor. arcane1 Jul 2016 #4

Kind if like how Obama Elmergantry Jul 2016 #32

The liberal policy before was to give people their freedom. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #56

yes. Elmergantry Jul 2016 #59

How did Carter throw the Shah "under the bus"? Genuinely curious what you KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #72

I think we critize Obama too much fun n serious Jul 2016 #76

When are the actual terrorists ever to blame? grossproffit Jul 2016 #5

Right? Marr Jul 2016 #8

My grandmother did not invade Iraq. roody Jul 2016 #13

that's like saying all lives matter Skittles Jul 2016 #14

imo -now. 840high Jul 2016 #18

Never, when they are our terrorists. JEB Jul 2016 #35

Ghoul?? Ms. Yertle Jul 2016 #40

You are absolutely correct. JEB Jul 2016 #61

I do not think they were born terrorists. Darb Jul 2016 #45

Apparently never. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #50

Yeah, well, that will play well here B2G Jul 2016 #6

I don't even think it will play well here any longer. The bloom is off the rose. grossproffit Jul 2016 #7

Never underestimate the ability of people to contort themselves into pretzels Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #57

history doesn't stop 6chars Jul 2016 #9

Don't overreact maxsolomon Jul 2016 #10

How long do you suppose that argument will play alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #15

+1 840high Jul 2016 #19

Probably as long as we keep Trump out of office maxsolomon Jul 2016 #42

And they'll never stop Calculating Jul 2016 #11

Most of them are stupid little boys who were sold a lie. Oneironaut Jul 2016 #12

Dangerous little boys. Nt B2G Jul 2016 #26

Unfortunately positive male role models not walking around pissed loyalsister Jul 2016 #44

Wasn't France a vocal critic against the war from the very beginning? inwiththenew Jul 2016 #16

becuase it is not the Iraq war that is driving the attacks against France (at the root levels) AntiBank Jul 2016 #29

Maybe b/c ofAlgeria. A lot of bad blood from their history, and antagonists from the war settled tblue37 Jul 2016 #30

Sometimes fires spread. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #51

Um.. yeah, that's way past 'opinion' at this point. It's obvious. RiverNoord Jul 2016 #17

Yeah, it was all Obama's and Pelosi's fault, right? George II Jul 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author AntiBank Jul 2016 #28

but mostly Eric Holder. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #52

You bet -- a great podcast posting on "This Is Hell" The current issue, "Into the spiral" is very, Akamai Jul 2016 #21

Well, not "ignore," but Wednesdays Jul 2016 #37

Xi Jinping reminds me of Geroge "W" Bush Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #38

East versus West PrideofJefferson Jul 2016 #22

The Charleston killer wasn't Muslim choie Jul 2016 #34

The terrorist in Charleston PrideofJefferson Jul 2016 #36

another haunted child, no matter what age you are Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #39

....so they attacked Nice. Riiiight. Nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #23

Not to excuse anyone but France has been meddling in the Islamic world for a very long time. mulsh Jul 2016 #24

That's exactly what I posted on MSGOP's Facebook post. StarzGuy Jul 2016 #25

You know what? No one else is talking about blame. B2G Jul 2016 #27

What vacuum are you referring to? Darb Jul 2016 #46

As if... Elmergantry Jul 2016 #31

Do you mean.... Darb Jul 2016 #47

Not sure I follow. Elmergantry Jul 2016 #60

It's terrorism all right, but.... Darb Jul 2016 #62

Well, Elmergantry Jul 2016 #63

Well, Darb Jul 2016 #64

please Elmergantry Jul 2016 #65

Want to address shock and awe? Darb Jul 2016 #66

not done in the name of jc Elmergantry Jul 2016 #67

I am sure that the arabs see it the same way. Darb Jul 2016 #68

irrelevant Elmergantry Jul 2016 #69

I am not saying it was Christian terrorism, Darb Jul 2016 #70

they call themselves Elmergantry Jul 2016 #71

If you are short sighted. I am with the President. Darb Jul 2016 #73

since the vast majority Elmergantry Jul 2016 #74

Not afraid, smart. Darb Jul 2016 #75

because there Elmergantry Jul 2016 #77

Stop calling them teabaggers? Darb Jul 2016 #78

stop comparing me Elmergantry Jul 2016 #79

It is well known who plays that game. Darb Jul 2016 #80

seems odd. Elmergantry Jul 2016 #81

Seems odd. Darb Jul 2016 #82

so you cant answer. Elmergantry Jul 2016 #83

I'll answer your ridiculous and obviously Darb Jul 2016 #84

In what way do you think the truck driver was affected by the Iraq war? n/t prayin4rain Jul 2016 #33

Tunisian-French nationality muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #41

This is generic enough that it could be stickied as the default head-in-sand response Bonx Jul 2016 #43

Do you remember what happened in Fallujah in 11-12/2004? Darb Jul 2016 #48

You're absolutely right on! lunatica Jul 2016 #49

I was thinking about starting a similar thread the other day: Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #53

check this thread while I try to find the one I did awhile ago, regarding Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #54

they knew where Zarqawi was, and ignored CIA pleas to go get him: Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #55

suggest you watch The Battle of Algiers geek tragedy Jul 2016 #58