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36. I doubt that ISIS gives a shit about the pedigree

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 11:14 AM

Jul 2016

or the underlying desires of the terrorists willing to kill in their name. As long as there's a high body count,they're cool.

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Truck terrorist "not a Muslim" .. beat his wife, drank alcohol, ate pork, took drugs.. [View all] DCBob Jul 2016 OP

Sounds like a typical Bible thumper here in the US. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1

That's what I thought!!! The hypocrisy!! Totally like some fundamental Christians here nt adigal Jul 2016 #80

Yeah, I kept thinking about how many of those scumbags I know Warpy Jul 2016 #110

one significant difference 6chars Jul 2016 #127

Drugs. I just can't back legalization when I hear stories like this. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #2

Specifics, please. theaocp Jul 2016 #14

Eeeep! ProfessorGAC Jul 2016 #15

Last I checked, drugs are legal. WhyTF are CVSs & Walgreens on every corner? eom Mika Jul 2016 #21

This SOB's wife beating was probably fueled by alcohol. argyl Jul 2016 #24

Is wife beating against the rules in conservative religions? Democat Jul 2016 #44

I was suggesting that this POS beat his wife while under the influence of alcohol, argyl Jul 2016 #79

That was my thought get the red out Jul 2016 #86

Legalization reduces drug use. Illegal only for raids on leftist and black leaders. Festivito Jul 2016 #48

What a line of crap. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #52

It's already a drugged society n/t arcane1 Jul 2016 #56

Thank you. We just have decided some drugs are good and some are bad. It turns out one of ... Statistical Jul 2016 #66

What? Calculating Jul 2016 #69

Pork. I back its criminalization when I hear stories like this. Wilms Jul 2016 #108

From my cold, dead hands. Glassunion Jul 2016 #124

How many raging alcoholics have you spent time around? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #129

Agreed. But stoned monsters do monstrous things. Not saying I have an answer. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #133

Sorry, but marijuana isn't making people violent. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #134

Being stoned usually precludes violence., yardwork Jul 2016 #139

Drugs can make people violent and paranoid and take action lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #142

"A cousin of his estranged wife said"... I'll wait for the investigation True Earthling Jul 2016 #3

Getting "religion real fast" by watching videos is not religion. DCBob Jul 2016 #6

Really? Let me go find the posts where people have Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #16

Sure it is Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #115

Or reading a few history books. France has a pretty sorry record in North KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #20

For those who've seen "Battle of Algiers", isn't it scary how the parallels closeupready Jul 2016 #46

It's been ages since I've seen that awesome fucking film. I'm going to have KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #99

As tragic as it is, I could watch it over and over. closeupready Jul 2016 #111

The 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #4

Exactly.. they werent real Muslims either. DCBob Jul 2016 #26

Oh, so you're the guy they appointed High Arbiter of Who Is and Who Is Not Muslim. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #32

Or are you? Someone yell Allah, and that makes it so. seabeyond Jul 2016 #35

No, I'm not. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #41

And simply yelling out God, when not participating in religion at all, doesn't make one so. seabeyond Jul 2016 #45

No, you don't get it. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #49

I do get it. I would suggest you do not. I admit I do not know another's mind, which is my argument. seabeyond Jul 2016 #54

So, your position is "haters gonna hate"? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #88

I think there are violent people out there in the world and wanting to lash out seabeyond Jul 2016 #93

I can think of two RussBLib Jul 2016 #106

Actually that is all it takes... TipTok Jul 2016 #72

No, that is not all it takes. That is the lazy way. Human behavior itself tells us people seabeyond Jul 2016 #75

Actually that is all it takes Arazi Jul 2016 #84

Yes, I get your point. And still, no. seabeyond Jul 2016 #85

That's the way it has to be .... TipTok Jul 2016 #89

Things are not so black and white. Hence the whole political/religious argument of black and white. seabeyond Jul 2016 #91

Discuss all you like... TipTok Jul 2016 #96

Lol. I need to know the motive before making my decision seeing how I do not fall into seabeyond Jul 2016 #98

And some things are extremely black and white. Marr Jul 2016 #122

Are you talking 9/11? I think there is plenty of evidence what the motivation was with 9/11. seabeyond Jul 2016 #123

Muslims puffy socks Jul 2016 #132

"Real Muslims" ? oberliner Jul 2016 #136

Their final group meeting was in Vegas Nevernose Jul 2016 #138

Like the Orlando dude. Hate filled, violent, using ISIS to cover murder. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #5

Exactly.. a pattern is emerging. DCBob Jul 2016 #8

Yes, it's called No True Scotsman Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #12

Uncomfirmed grossproffit Jul 2016 #7

I think so. Sad. DCBob Jul 2016 #9

Has that FB page been verified? citood Jul 2016 #10

I don�t like the posting of pictures of the children :( n/t prayin4rain Jul 2016 #13

All of these mass murderers have one thing in common. KMOD Jul 2016 #11

Almost all of them have another thing in common. Nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #17

What would that be? KMOD Jul 2016 #53

Male perpetrators? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #60

Yes. They're unstable males, filled with rage and hate. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #39

Its rare, but female mass killers do exist. Max Adolphe comes to mind. Marengo Jul 2016 #51

Actually, in France... OldEurope Jul 2016 #61

She was the one who 'friend-zoned' the a**h**e just before she was blown to bits, right? underahedgerow Jul 2016 #65

The worlds deadliest terrorist use women. Go Vols Jul 2016 #131

Other interesting tidbits... jmg257 Jul 2016 #18

It turns out his "arsenal' was all fake, except for the one handgun he fired at cops. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #62

Thanks for the heads up on the fake stuff - had not heard that. jmg257 Jul 2016 #64

How many Christians drink and do drugs? Democat Jul 2016 #19

And how many murder claiming it is for Christianity, when there is nothing in their life seabeyond Jul 2016 #31

Shelley Shannon, Eric Rudolph, Scott Roeder, James Kopp, Micheal Griffin, Paul Hill, John Salvi ... REP Jul 2016 #101

Don't most of ISIS Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #22

They arent real Muslims either.. imo. DCBob Jul 2016 #28

Maybe Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #37

Yeah melman Jul 2016 #38

"imo" - precisely. trotsky Jul 2016 #109

bullshit. somebody has to own this shit. "not real"? who is to say? you? right. nt JanMichael Jul 2016 #128

You must be doing parody oberliner Jul 2016 #137

Oh come on. We all know he's not a jihadist unless B2G Jul 2016 #30

Drugs are allowed in a literal interpretation of the Koran Nevernose Jul 2016 #140

How could he be? MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #23

His ex-wife is in custody. nt B2G Jul 2016 #25

Interesting. DCBob Jul 2016 #27

I read protective custody. There would be a difference. I do not know for fact, seabeyond Jul 2016 #33

Multiple outlets reporting 'arrested', not protective custody. nt B2G Jul 2016 #47

Well, I am not researching so will have to wait until I run across fact before making it so. seabeyond Jul 2016 #50

She's being held for questioning. KMOD Jul 2016 #70

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #29

Sounds like most Islamic terrorists FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #34

I doubt that ISIS gives a shit about the pedigree sufrommich Jul 2016 #36

Sure. They recruit spoiled privilege white kids form the West to play their game. They don't care seabeyond Jul 2016 #42

Not the first Jihadist to drink alcohol (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #40

Interesting title: one of those four things is not banned by Islam. auntpurl Jul 2016 #43

Yanno, I'm getting slapped around all kinds of everywhere for speculating about this some hours underahedgerow Jul 2016 #55

You are a little early for a victory speech Democat Jul 2016 #58

"I'm really glad there aren't any isis nutters out there roaming the streets trying to kill more jmg257 Jul 2016 #67

You were NOT speculating leftynyc Jul 2016 #71

Buuuut, I AM right. Unless you're calling the authorities in France liars. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #76

You have permission to do whatever you like! Rex Jul 2016 #81

My eyes can't roll around in my leftynyc Jul 2016 #87

It's always the bacon! longship Jul 2016 #57

A 'teapartier' ! n/t left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #59

Weren't some of the 9/11 hijackers regulars at strip clubs? Oneironaut Jul 2016 #63

This goes to show how religion/lack of religion/being a religion is all socially constructed ck4829 Jul 2016 #68

The Guardian blog has some additional info on Bouhlel TubbersUK Jul 2016 #73

The true observers of faith are seldom fanatic cosmicone Jul 2016 #74

Well this is going to mess up the radical Muslim terrorist theme of cheeto and newt. kimbutgar Jul 2016 #77

So the guy just snapped and killed a lot of people. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #78

It's more than that. totodeinhere Jul 2016 #113

I guess that proves he wasn't a nut case! The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #117

Lots of info/photos at the link. senseandsensibility Jul 2016 #82

I guess the US isn't the only country having problems with lone wolves going postal... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2016 #83

Totally sounds like ISIS� tenderfoot Jul 2016 #90

dammit, why can't i find any True Scotsmen anymore? 0rganism Jul 2016 #92

Sounds like he is as Muslim as Boris Johnson whistler162 Jul 2016 #94

He was a Muslim like I'm a Catholic maxsolomon Jul 2016 #95

What if he did it because he is a drunk, pathetic person, pissed because his wife divorced him and seabeyond Jul 2016 #97

What if his aunt has balls? maxsolomon Jul 2016 #100

I see no evidence at all he was motivated by religion. I see tons of evidence he is an angry man seabeyond Jul 2016 #102

When I asserted that Prince died of an OD, i was excoriated on DU for besmirching his reputation maxsolomon Jul 2016 #105

I think evidence clearly points not motivated by religion but and angry violent man. seabeyond Jul 2016 #112

I believe the evidence, such as it is, points to Islam as ONE motivating factor maxsolomon Jul 2016 #118

"reserve judgment at all costs" But, you just made that up, didn't you. Lol seabeyond Jul 2016 #119

wasn't aware it was a competition maxsolomon Jul 2016 #121

In Protestant churches, they are the ones who put on the biggest show when going up to be "saved" FrodosPet Jul 2016 #141

I suppose he could still pledge to ISIS or whatever RussBLib Jul 2016 #103

9/11 all motive pointed to religion and war with the west. Not with this man. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #104

Of course this had nothing to do with Islam mwrguy Jul 2016 #107

If it had nothing to do with Islam why did he shout �Allahu Akbar� before opening fire? totodeinhere Jul 2016 #114

It never does Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #116

I wondered where the DU excuses thread would be Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #120

Many Muslims disavow ISIS as non-Islamic. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2016 #125

Eating pork and drinking alcohol is not "banned by Islam" oberliner Jul 2016 #126

Fits profile of mass murderers of any religion mainer Jul 2016 #130

that describes the typical ISIS member. just like the sex abusive catholic church JI7 Jul 2016 #135

I'll bet he wasn't a true Scotsman, either. Iggo Jul 2016 #143