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maxsolomon

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100. What if his aunt has balls?

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:01 PM

Jul 2016

It's likely he was, at least in part, motivated by fundament Sunni tactics and propaganda, in addition to the specifics of his own miserable life. Are you contending it's NOT likely?

I get it: never blame the religion or its adherents without direct proof. That religion, however, is singularly maladapted to the modern world.

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Truck terrorist "not a Muslim" .. beat his wife, drank alcohol, ate pork, took drugs.. [View all] DCBob Jul 2016 OP

Sounds like a typical Bible thumper here in the US. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1

That's what I thought!!! The hypocrisy!! Totally like some fundamental Christians here nt adigal Jul 2016 #80

Yeah, I kept thinking about how many of those scumbags I know Warpy Jul 2016 #110

one significant difference 6chars Jul 2016 #127

Drugs. I just can't back legalization when I hear stories like this. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #2

Specifics, please. theaocp Jul 2016 #14

Eeeep! ProfessorGAC Jul 2016 #15

Last I checked, drugs are legal. WhyTF are CVSs & Walgreens on every corner? eom Mika Jul 2016 #21

This SOB's wife beating was probably fueled by alcohol. argyl Jul 2016 #24

Is wife beating against the rules in conservative religions? Democat Jul 2016 #44

I was suggesting that this POS beat his wife while under the influence of alcohol, argyl Jul 2016 #79

That was my thought get the red out Jul 2016 #86

Legalization reduces drug use. Illegal only for raids on leftist and black leaders. Festivito Jul 2016 #48

What a line of crap. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #52

It's already a drugged society n/t arcane1 Jul 2016 #56

Thank you. We just have decided some drugs are good and some are bad. It turns out one of ... Statistical Jul 2016 #66

What? Calculating Jul 2016 #69

Pork. I back its criminalization when I hear stories like this. Wilms Jul 2016 #108

From my cold, dead hands. Glassunion Jul 2016 #124

How many raging alcoholics have you spent time around? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #129

Agreed. But stoned monsters do monstrous things. Not saying I have an answer. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #133

Sorry, but marijuana isn't making people violent. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #134

Being stoned usually precludes violence., yardwork Jul 2016 #139

Drugs can make people violent and paranoid and take action lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #142

"A cousin of his estranged wife said"... I'll wait for the investigation True Earthling Jul 2016 #3

Getting "religion real fast" by watching videos is not religion. DCBob Jul 2016 #6

Really? Let me go find the posts where people have Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #16

Sure it is Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #115

Or reading a few history books. France has a pretty sorry record in North KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #20

For those who've seen "Battle of Algiers", isn't it scary how the parallels closeupready Jul 2016 #46

It's been ages since I've seen that awesome fucking film. I'm going to have KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #99

As tragic as it is, I could watch it over and over. closeupready Jul 2016 #111

The 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #4

Exactly.. they werent real Muslims either. DCBob Jul 2016 #26

Oh, so you're the guy they appointed High Arbiter of Who Is and Who Is Not Muslim. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #32

Or are you? Someone yell Allah, and that makes it so. seabeyond Jul 2016 #35

No, I'm not. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #41

And simply yelling out God, when not participating in religion at all, doesn't make one so. seabeyond Jul 2016 #45

No, you don't get it. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #49

I do get it. I would suggest you do not. I admit I do not know another's mind, which is my argument. seabeyond Jul 2016 #54

So, your position is "haters gonna hate"? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #88

I think there are violent people out there in the world and wanting to lash out seabeyond Jul 2016 #93

I can think of two RussBLib Jul 2016 #106

Actually that is all it takes... TipTok Jul 2016 #72

No, that is not all it takes. That is the lazy way. Human behavior itself tells us people seabeyond Jul 2016 #75

Actually that is all it takes Arazi Jul 2016 #84

Yes, I get your point. And still, no. seabeyond Jul 2016 #85

That's the way it has to be .... TipTok Jul 2016 #89

Things are not so black and white. Hence the whole political/religious argument of black and white. seabeyond Jul 2016 #91

Discuss all you like... TipTok Jul 2016 #96

Lol. I need to know the motive before making my decision seeing how I do not fall into seabeyond Jul 2016 #98

And some things are extremely black and white. Marr Jul 2016 #122

Are you talking 9/11? I think there is plenty of evidence what the motivation was with 9/11. seabeyond Jul 2016 #123

Muslims puffy socks Jul 2016 #132

"Real Muslims" ? oberliner Jul 2016 #136

Their final group meeting was in Vegas Nevernose Jul 2016 #138

Like the Orlando dude. Hate filled, violent, using ISIS to cover murder. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #5

Exactly.. a pattern is emerging. DCBob Jul 2016 #8

Yes, it's called No True Scotsman Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #12

Uncomfirmed grossproffit Jul 2016 #7

I think so. Sad. DCBob Jul 2016 #9

Has that FB page been verified? citood Jul 2016 #10

I don�t like the posting of pictures of the children :( n/t prayin4rain Jul 2016 #13

All of these mass murderers have one thing in common. KMOD Jul 2016 #11

Almost all of them have another thing in common. Nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #17

What would that be? KMOD Jul 2016 #53

Male perpetrators? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #60

Yes. They're unstable males, filled with rage and hate. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #39

Its rare, but female mass killers do exist. Max Adolphe comes to mind. Marengo Jul 2016 #51

Actually, in France... OldEurope Jul 2016 #61

She was the one who 'friend-zoned' the a**h**e just before she was blown to bits, right? underahedgerow Jul 2016 #65

The worlds deadliest terrorist use women. Go Vols Jul 2016 #131

Other interesting tidbits... jmg257 Jul 2016 #18

It turns out his "arsenal' was all fake, except for the one handgun he fired at cops. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #62

Thanks for the heads up on the fake stuff - had not heard that. jmg257 Jul 2016 #64

How many Christians drink and do drugs? Democat Jul 2016 #19

And how many murder claiming it is for Christianity, when there is nothing in their life seabeyond Jul 2016 #31

Shelley Shannon, Eric Rudolph, Scott Roeder, James Kopp, Micheal Griffin, Paul Hill, John Salvi ... REP Jul 2016 #101

Don't most of ISIS Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #22

They arent real Muslims either.. imo. DCBob Jul 2016 #28

Maybe Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #37

Yeah melman Jul 2016 #38

"imo" - precisely. trotsky Jul 2016 #109

bullshit. somebody has to own this shit. "not real"? who is to say? you? right. nt JanMichael Jul 2016 #128

You must be doing parody oberliner Jul 2016 #137

Oh come on. We all know he's not a jihadist unless B2G Jul 2016 #30

Drugs are allowed in a literal interpretation of the Koran Nevernose Jul 2016 #140

How could he be? MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #23

His ex-wife is in custody. nt B2G Jul 2016 #25

Interesting. DCBob Jul 2016 #27

I read protective custody. There would be a difference. I do not know for fact, seabeyond Jul 2016 #33

Multiple outlets reporting 'arrested', not protective custody. nt B2G Jul 2016 #47

Well, I am not researching so will have to wait until I run across fact before making it so. seabeyond Jul 2016 #50

She's being held for questioning. KMOD Jul 2016 #70

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #29

Sounds like most Islamic terrorists FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #34

I doubt that ISIS gives a shit about the pedigree sufrommich Jul 2016 #36

Sure. They recruit spoiled privilege white kids form the West to play their game. They don't care seabeyond Jul 2016 #42

Not the first Jihadist to drink alcohol (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #40

Interesting title: one of those four things is not banned by Islam. auntpurl Jul 2016 #43

Yanno, I'm getting slapped around all kinds of everywhere for speculating about this some hours underahedgerow Jul 2016 #55

You are a little early for a victory speech Democat Jul 2016 #58

"I'm really glad there aren't any isis nutters out there roaming the streets trying to kill more jmg257 Jul 2016 #67

You were NOT speculating leftynyc Jul 2016 #71

Buuuut, I AM right. Unless you're calling the authorities in France liars. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #76

You have permission to do whatever you like! Rex Jul 2016 #81

My eyes can't roll around in my leftynyc Jul 2016 #87

It's always the bacon! longship Jul 2016 #57

A 'teapartier' ! n/t left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #59

Weren't some of the 9/11 hijackers regulars at strip clubs? Oneironaut Jul 2016 #63

This goes to show how religion/lack of religion/being a religion is all socially constructed ck4829 Jul 2016 #68

The Guardian blog has some additional info on Bouhlel TubbersUK Jul 2016 #73

The true observers of faith are seldom fanatic cosmicone Jul 2016 #74

Well this is going to mess up the radical Muslim terrorist theme of cheeto and newt. kimbutgar Jul 2016 #77

So the guy just snapped and killed a lot of people. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #78

It's more than that. totodeinhere Jul 2016 #113

I guess that proves he wasn't a nut case! The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #117

Lots of info/photos at the link. senseandsensibility Jul 2016 #82

I guess the US isn't the only country having problems with lone wolves going postal... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2016 #83

Totally sounds like ISIS� tenderfoot Jul 2016 #90

dammit, why can't i find any True Scotsmen anymore? 0rganism Jul 2016 #92

Sounds like he is as Muslim as Boris Johnson whistler162 Jul 2016 #94

He was a Muslim like I'm a Catholic maxsolomon Jul 2016 #95

What if he did it because he is a drunk, pathetic person, pissed because his wife divorced him and seabeyond Jul 2016 #97

What if his aunt has balls? maxsolomon Jul 2016 #100

I see no evidence at all he was motivated by religion. I see tons of evidence he is an angry man seabeyond Jul 2016 #102

When I asserted that Prince died of an OD, i was excoriated on DU for besmirching his reputation maxsolomon Jul 2016 #105

I think evidence clearly points not motivated by religion but and angry violent man. seabeyond Jul 2016 #112

I believe the evidence, such as it is, points to Islam as ONE motivating factor maxsolomon Jul 2016 #118

"reserve judgment at all costs" But, you just made that up, didn't you. Lol seabeyond Jul 2016 #119

wasn't aware it was a competition maxsolomon Jul 2016 #121

In Protestant churches, they are the ones who put on the biggest show when going up to be "saved" FrodosPet Jul 2016 #141

I suppose he could still pledge to ISIS or whatever RussBLib Jul 2016 #103

9/11 all motive pointed to religion and war with the west. Not with this man. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #104

Of course this had nothing to do with Islam mwrguy Jul 2016 #107

If it had nothing to do with Islam why did he shout �Allahu Akbar� before opening fire? totodeinhere Jul 2016 #114

It never does Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #116

I wondered where the DU excuses thread would be Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #120

Many Muslims disavow ISIS as non-Islamic. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2016 #125

Eating pork and drinking alcohol is not "banned by Islam" oberliner Jul 2016 #126

Fits profile of mass murderers of any religion mainer Jul 2016 #130

that describes the typical ISIS member. just like the sex abusive catholic church JI7 Jul 2016 #135

I'll bet he wasn't a true Scotsman, either. Iggo Jul 2016 #143