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93. The Kouachi brothers were also described as being

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 12:38 AM

Jul 2016

reclusive and socially aloof.

They had a troubled life, and a history of crime before they were recruited and indoctrinated by radicals. They were the type of men that the totalitarianism religious radicals prey on.

As I said up thread, I'm not denying the religious war that is occurring. I am saying that the terrorist attacks being committed outside of the religious war zones, are being committee by mentally unstable people who are full of anger and rage. Their anger and rage is fueled even further by the messages coming from groups like ISIS. Hate begets hate, anger begets anger, and violence begets violence.
When you fill an already unstable persons mind with hateful and revengeful thoughts, whether it be from the news, the internet, or their supposed friends, you are creating a toxic environment.

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Terrorism is not about religion [View all] KMOD Jul 2016 OP

Oh yes, no religious element at all... jmg257 Jul 2016 #1

It's really amazing melman Jul 2016 #42

The same people will talk about how arrogant the west is. Marr Jul 2016 #55

False consciousness. Igel Jul 2016 #72

Religion is a tool of manipulation. NightWatcher Jul 2016 #2

Yes. KMOD Jul 2016 #4

Definitely, nuts make the best foot soldiers NightWatcher Jul 2016 #8

Unfortunately Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #14

Yes. KMOD Jul 2016 #17

Yes... that's true, as well... Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #19

It's frightening. KMOD Jul 2016 #21

There are also a lot of comfortable, educated, upper class Muslims who are radicalized as well. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #66

Religion is not the reason melm00se Jul 2016 #3

Absolutely Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #16

Perhaps. Igel Jul 2016 #73

I suspect that's true in many instances ... Whiskeytide Jul 2016 #5

How would you explain someone like Andreas Lubitz? KMOD Jul 2016 #9

I can't. He was a suicidal psychopath ... Whiskeytide Jul 2016 #48

pretend to be, motivated by their religious beliefs. puffy socks Jul 2016 #89

Of course! MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #6

That book seems so much like a prop bravenak Jul 2016 #75

Mindreader! MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #76

I'm damn good at it too bravenak Jul 2016 #78

Of course! MowCowWhoHow III Jul 2016 #79

Glad people see the light now bravenak Jul 2016 #80

When their religion teaches that they will be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife, Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #7

Scholors say that is being mistranslated. KMOD Jul 2016 #15

Someone always points that out. Marr Jul 2016 #64

That's not the claim. Igel Jul 2016 #74

Terrorism is about more than one thing-Religion is one of them. WestCoastLib Jul 2016 #10

"it's about hate, rage and anger." trotsky Jul 2016 #11

But they use religious Dorian Gray Jul 2016 #12

Yes they use religion as progaganda, KMOD Jul 2016 #20

Frankly, that's bullshit FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #13

I suppose that if the US were invaded, occupied The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #18

Muslims have been killing in the name of religion for far longer than the US has even existed. Statistical Jul 2016 #22

Everybody has god on their side while they are The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #24

Victim blaming at it's finest. FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #26

If U.S. religious leaders organized and led the ... Whiskeytide Jul 2016 #57

As an agnostic, the first thing I would do in that circumstance FrodosPet Jul 2016 #71

Thanks for the information get the red out Jul 2016 #23

Robert Dear, or as he called himself KMOD Jul 2016 #25

Eric Robert Rudolph get the red out Jul 2016 #28

He also showed warning signs of rage from a young age. KMOD Jul 2016 #30

A LOT of untrue Scotsmen out there get the red out Jul 2016 #32

I have no idea what your point is. KMOD Jul 2016 #54

I'm sure get the red out Jul 2016 #69

The point is, you want to airbrush everything out that doesn't fit your narrative. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #82

My narrative is that all of these acts, KMOD Jul 2016 #85

Yes, but thinking there's an invisible man in the sky w/ a long list of rules Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #87

The Kouachi brothers were also described as being KMOD Jul 2016 #93

And I'm saying that the distinction between "mentally unstable" and "magic beings in the sky Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #96

In my opinion, you are implying that all people who practice religion KMOD Jul 2016 #99

and in my opinion, you're engaging in special pleading for something that Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #107

So he wasn't religiously motivated? Throd Jul 2016 #29

He was insane. KMOD Jul 2016 #31

he was depressed and finacially insecure Mosby Jul 2016 #39

A judge ruled him incompetent, KMOD Jul 2016 #52

Yeah, thinking there's a magic invisible man in the sky with a long list of rules he wants you to Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #81

I'm not particularly religious Warren, KMOD Jul 2016 #83

you should read that entire sentence. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #88

Does that stop him from being religiously motivated? whatthehey Jul 2016 #36

No, KMOD Jul 2016 #41

I smell porridge-sugar coming... whatthehey Jul 2016 #49

No. KMOD Jul 2016 #56

Yes that's true; it's usually religion whatthehey Jul 2016 #62

Yes. RELIGION. PoutrageFatigue Jul 2016 #91

Not sure what unstable means, but rage, hate, and anger are pretty universal loyalsister Jul 2016 #27

What entitles you or anyone else to say what motivates what? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #33

Excuse me? KMOD Jul 2016 #37

You left off that the majority of them claim a particular faith. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #40

84% of the population KMOD Jul 2016 #43

It's comical at this point. Nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #44

You have no response KMOD Jul 2016 #46

Every response of yours proves my point Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #47

I guess I missed the proof of your point. KMOD Jul 2016 #58

So it's just highly leftynyc Jul 2016 #65

Pay no attention to the imam behind the curtain! Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #86

So then the Christians puffy socks Jul 2016 #90

Religion is a factor in most ISIS attacks though. romanic Jul 2016 #34

When did any of those become mutually exclusive? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #35

Hmmm whatthehey Jul 2016 #38

I am not denying the fact KMOD Jul 2016 #45

Well yes they are in Dar-al Kharb, and we all know what that means whatthehey Jul 2016 #51

??? KMOD Jul 2016 #59

Why ??? whatthehey Jul 2016 #63

Islamic terrorism is religious in nature. Marr Jul 2016 #50

Anything that provides an opportunity for bigots to bash giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #53

Yup. KMOD Jul 2016 #60

People learn to be bigots Democat Jul 2016 #98

Do you think you could convince leftynyc Jul 2016 #61

ISIS is all about religion; that's why they are committing genocide on the Yazidis muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #67

Except for those religions which can't explain ... GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #68

Religion can can be a factor and push someone who is unstable over the edge... True Earthling Jul 2016 #70

Sure, if you say so. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #77

lulz Rex Jul 2016 #84

Just like white supremacy is not about violence? Corporate666 Jul 2016 #92

It's not JUST about religion killbotfactory Jul 2016 #94

the guy who shot up the gay nightclub wasn't subjected to war. the US was a safe place JI7 Jul 2016 #95

His father didn't kill a bunch of people either Democat Jul 2016 #102

Hating gay people and those different from you Democat Jul 2016 #97

Many agnostics practice the same hate. KMOD Jul 2016 #100

People come to hate in different ways Democat Jul 2016 #101

You are going off topic, KMOD Jul 2016 #103

They do it in the name of religIon. JI7 Jul 2016 #105

weasel words: "many" Warren Stupidity Jul 2016 #108

Let's call it what it is....and deal with it... Doodley Jul 2016 #104

The French govt is now saying Bouhlel was radicalized by ISIS' version of Islam Arazi Jul 2016 #106

i agree with you TroyJackson Jul 2016 #109