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23. So what do you suggest ?

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 09:06 AM

Jul 2016

Christianity does say we have to go out and spread the message. Should we be sending missionaries to convert the Muslims to the superior religion that is Christianity?

Are we justified in bombing and killing all of these followers of the religion that tells them they will go to heaven if they kill some of us?

Also I think the average DUer probably doesn't have a deep understanding of the Koran, so maybe checking with some scholars on what those words actually mean?

Jesus said a couple things that are troubling to most people, and clergy attempt to explain them in their sermons. Few Christians really do what he said - leave your family if they don't believe, sell all you have and give it to the poor.

Do you think a suicide bomber truly believes he is going to heaven and will get a bunch of virgins there? If they so literally believe that, you'd think there would be a lot more of them than there are already.

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Maajid Nawaz: "Please stop saying the Nice attacks have nothing to do with Islam." [View all] Ex Lurker Jul 2016 OP

Yup. Kick and Rec eom Arazi Jul 2016 #1

Not much in the way of comments Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #2

Most don't like the message and especially don't like it coming from that messenger. Statistical Jul 2016 #4

Yup. Like the liberal criminologists who don't sign off on "gun control". pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #12

.+1 840high Jul 2016 #49

It's not just done with Muslims, look at 'our' shooters and how we wash our hands clean of them ck4829 Jul 2016 #3

Did Dylan Roof's religion promise him a reward TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #13

So what do you suggest ? treestar Jul 2016 #23

Christians and Muslims believe in heaven/paradise TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #24

"every male admitted into Paradise will be given eternal 6chars Jul 2016 #28

Hehe TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #51

Hey, if you are going to promise that - - then you need to add more to it. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #52

And that is what makes it so dangerous Ruby the Liberal Jul 2016 #25

Um, how do we 'wash our hands of them'? whathehell Jul 2016 #76

Confused yet? You should be. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #5

So says you Cartoonist Jul 2016 #7

In what way? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #8

Original writer writes thoughtful paragraphs and all you post is a one line slam. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #61

is there a thoughtful rebuttal there somewhere? MariaThinks Jul 2016 #66

Doesn't the KKK zentrum Jul 2016 #6

Best comment yet. colorado_ufo Jul 2016 #10

Problem with that is that virtually all religious people ignore that which they do not wish Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #21

+1000 treestar Jul 2016 #19

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #33

And as an LGBT person I think the homophobic King_David Jul 2016 #77

The Self-Invention of Maajid Nawaz struggle4progress Jul 2016 #9

What Does Maajid Nawaz Really Believe? struggle4progress Jul 2016 #11

Motives unclear struggle4progress Jul 2016 #14

People jump on his Muslim-ness treestar Jul 2016 #18

The French govt is now saying Bouhlel was radicalized by ISIS' version of Islam Arazi Jul 2016 #38

... He "had not been known to the intelligence services because he did not stand out ... struggle4progress Jul 2016 #69

So far there has been no evidence found by French authorities that this had anything to do... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #15

He apparently invoked a common Islamic phrase 6chars Jul 2016 #16

Well, that certainly settles it then... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #20

good save 6chars Jul 2016 #22

Right melman Jul 2016 #41

Maybe he was just a self loathing Gay male ? King_David Jul 2016 #78

well, this is the Daily Mail. kwassa Jul 2016 #54

quite a few other papers have it 6chars Jul 2016 #62

If he actually said it ... kwassa Jul 2016 #80

it wouldn't be unheard of. 6chars Jul 2016 #81

geez that is written in a condescending way treestar Jul 2016 #17

Great point! Argument by anger is hardly persuasive. Akamai Jul 2016 #27

After 911 we did exactly what bin Laden wanted treestar Jul 2016 #31

Absolutely agree with you and the military here know it as do Akamai Jul 2016 #32

there is a lot of that going around lately Skittles Jul 2016 #34

It has everything to do with fundamentalism and nothing to do with Islam. wildeyed Jul 2016 #26

Thank god there are enlightened western liberals like yourself, to explain Marr Jul 2016 #48

What I am saying is that religion has little effect on people's actions. wildeyed Jul 2016 #56

Religion has little effect on people's actions? progressoid Jul 2016 #71

Like this? wildeyed Jul 2016 #79

That seems like plain old hypocrisy. progressoid Jul 2016 #82

I never said religion was innocuous. wildeyed Jul 2016 #83

Viscious lunatics will always find an excuse, religion being their favorite. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #29

Sorry, you are wrong. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #45

They all would have found an excuse, regardless of the choices. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #53

They find what they're looking for in the book. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #55

ive read some of those books beergood Jul 2016 #84

When my schizophrenic sister was off her meds she showed up at a Catholic elementary school blm Jul 2016 #30

but she did get her beliefs from Catholocism Schema Thing Jul 2016 #36

Not really - what she believed is that she was making my RW Catholic fundie mother proud of her by blm Jul 2016 #37

You're saying she didn't believe the things she was saying? Schema Thing Jul 2016 #42

Part of her did, but, she also believed aliens landed and invaded Cleveland, and that she blm Jul 2016 #43

I haven't seen research on this... Schema Thing Jul 2016 #46

Please....Atheist schizophrenics may change their cast of characters whathehell Jul 2016 #75

Excellent article, thanks. Maajid Nawaz is one hope of an evolution of Islam Albertoo Jul 2016 #35

I'm not sure Maajid Nawaz's methods persuade any Muslims to be less violent -- Persuasion by yelling Akamai Jul 2016 #63

Game theory only works with collaborative players Albertoo Jul 2016 #68

I think that oftentimes a holy book is more revered in memory than in practice. Akamai Jul 2016 #70

KIck and rec Arazi Jul 2016 #39

Kick sarcasmo Jul 2016 #40

some people refuse to accept that believing in God doesn't make someone a good person JI7 Jul 2016 #44

A hell of a lot of people think that not believing in god makes you bad, worse than believing in a Akamai Jul 2016 #64

Well said. /nt Marr Jul 2016 #47

I will go one further, fundamentalism is the root cause of our problems. Rex Jul 2016 #50

Agreed. Fundamentalist zealots of any and all stripes... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #57

They all have the same final solution. We all die and they live in their twisted utopia. Rex Jul 2016 #58

If it is not mental illness it is just pure evil. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #59

Well in a time of such logic and reasoning, I guess it is too much to wonder why Rex Jul 2016 #60

yup... progressoid Jul 2016 #72

At last someone who is speaking the truth and not afraid of it. MariaThinks Jul 2016 #65

As FAIR zentrum Jul 2016 #67

Oh, okay, will do - will take advice from someone I've never heard of before, closeupready Jul 2016 #73

Whether or not these acts of violence are related to Islamic extremists, King_Klonopin Jul 2016 #74