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Jopin Klobe

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24. (David) Rubenstein, co-founder of the Carlyle Group ...

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 06:42 PM

Jul 2016

Former president George H.W. Bush is a Carlyle adviser. Former British prime minister John Major heads its European arm. Former secretary of state James Baker is senior counselor, former White House budget chief Richard Darman is a partner, former SEC chairman Arthur Levitt is senior adviser -- the list goes on.

"We've actually replaced the Trilateral Commission" as the darling of conspiracy theorists, says Rubenstein -- who, truth be told, happens to be a member of the Trilateral Commission.

It didn't help that as the World Trade Center burned on Sept. 11, 2001, the news interrupted a Carlyle business conference at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel here attended by a brother of Osama bin Laden. Former president Bush, a fellow investor, had been with him at the conference the previous day.
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Two men conducted a 9/11/01 'dry run' in 1999 with tickets from Saudi government [View all] deminks Jul 2016 OP

The Saud Family weren't the only ones in on 9/11. So was PNAC and Dick Cheney. ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #1

I am in general agreement with your story. nt villager Jul 2016 #3

Well we now know they cooked up a story to try to get Iraq to start a war, so why not that? Rex Jul 2016 #5

If there is one good thing about Trump, and to be clear I mean only ONE good thing, strategery blunder Jul 2016 #6

Me too, Trump's ego is so yuuuuggge that it might have cost the GOP their billion dollar pretense. Rex Jul 2016 #7

Hoping for another Pearl Harbor Teacheral Jul 2016 #12

I agree,. I suspect Chimpy was clueless, as always. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #14

I suspect he knew but being indifferent and incurious WhiteTara Jul 2016 #67

Jeb knew but chimpy, I don't think he knew it was actually going to go down. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #72

He gets no pass from me. nt WhiteTara Jul 2016 #76

Cheney was a co-signer to PNAC, before they scrubbed it. Rex Jul 2016 #19

So was Jeb Bush dflprincess Jul 2016 #41

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I don't even need anything about the Mossad being involved. I already have enough to go on... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #16

I'm with you tom_kelly Jul 2016 #20

Omg, Tom, that's horrible about the coworkers :(. It's dangerous to say anything about... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #44

It doesn't even make any damn sense. Kentonio Jul 2016 #49

I'm sorry, but it's your thought process that doesn't make sense. But... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #56

If you want to believe in political collaboration by the neo-cons then that's one thing. Kentonio Jul 2016 #59

Again, your attempt to accuse me of "going on about controlled demolition" is not going... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #62

You clearly didn't bother to read anything I wrote, so we'll leave it there. Kentonio Jul 2016 #66

No, that is not clear. I read every single word you wrote. But do run off, buh-bye. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #70

Ah you read it and then just chose to completely misrepresent it. Kentonio Jul 2016 #84

Why is it dangerous to talk about bombs in the WTC, Tom? Francis Booth Jul 2016 #78

Who are you calling Tom? If you have something legitimate to say, you might start by... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #79

My bad - I was replying to you, but had tom_kelly's Francis Booth Jul 2016 #80

Because most people here adhere to the official conspiracy theory put forth by the... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #81

Thanks for explaining. nt Francis Booth Jul 2016 #82

I have come to the same conclusion. Qutzupalotl Jul 2016 #38

It's criminal the way our media ignored the PNAC. CaptainTruth Jul 2016 #42

When you do nothing to stop a hijacking on the scale of 9/11, you didn't LIHOP, you... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #71

Our swell allies, the Saudis. villager Jul 2016 #2

Thanks for the giggle. 840high Jul 2016 #28

From ABC 9/19/01 James Woods Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #4

Wow 840high Jul 2016 #29

Kick for the truth sarcasmo Jul 2016 #8

Finally. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #9

That's why, after Sept. 11, we invaded Saudi Arabia. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #10

Nice to see that many of us who railed on Saudi Arabia sarcasmo Jul 2016 #11

proven right how? These articles contain almost nothing. uhnope Jul 2016 #52

But..but..our senators and congress folks knew what they were doing. bigwillq Jul 2016 #21

So, are we still nutty truthers for thinking this was more than a few guys w/box cutters? NightWatcher Jul 2016 #15

" truthers" never where nutty. Indeed, we were the only ones seeing the truth. Personally I'm... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #17

There are truthers and there are truthers. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #18

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Exactly! Every group has it's nutty extremist fringe, including truthers 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #32

Remote controlled?!? What the actual f is wrong with people.. Kentonio Jul 2016 #50

you didn't know planes could indeed be remotely controlled!? wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #57

Have you ever actually talked to an aerospace engineer? Kentonio Jul 2016 #61

you believe what ever makes you feel secure...but yes you can wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #63

Oh for... Kentonio Jul 2016 #68

you mean those cell phone calls that turned out to never have happened? wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #69

yea nonsense alright... wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #74

Writing as one professionally involved in Aerospace Engineering... Myrddin Jul 2016 #85

I just walked past the 9/11 memorial last Tuesday 47of74 Jul 2016 #23

(David) Rubenstein, co-founder of the Carlyle Group ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #24

Rubenstein was one viper in the nest in Jimmy Carter's breast UTUSN Jul 2016 #26

Jul 26, 2001: Atty. General John Ashcroft advised to avoid commercial flights... VOX Jul 2016 #25

They picked a great day to release it.. choie Jul 2016 #27

& then there's BANDER-BUSH UTUSN Jul 2016 #30

Yes, the Saudi darling of the Bush Crime Family. n/t 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #33

The people in this country are dangerously stupid to believe the Bush Adm. didn't see this coming. YOHABLO Jul 2016 #31

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Are you seriously claiming TeddyR Jul 2016 #35

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precisely! thank you! wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #37

Hi wildbilln864, good to see you pop into GD. What did the poster say... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #45

I think they spoke of... wildbilln864 Jul 2016 #46

Could you PM me more please? Thanks! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #47

I agree. The evidence is overwhelming on this. Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #64

kick MariaThinks Jul 2016 #39

The only link I can find between the men on the dry run and the Saudi government Eko Jul 2016 #40

yep. Lamest "revelation" I've ever seen. Someone described it as a "dry run" uhnope Jul 2016 #51

Why are we still allies with that horrible country? Initech Jul 2016 #43

Oil MillennialDem Jul 2016 #60

The NY Times take on the release burfman Jul 2016 #48

is this nothingburger really the biggest revelation in the 28 pages of declassified docs? uhnope Jul 2016 #53

bushco wanted a war so bad hed do anything . even lie allan01 Jul 2016 #54

The actual "dress rehearsal" was the Indian Airlines plane hijack cosmicone Jul 2016 #55

Related: "Phoenix Memo" was sent on 7/10/2001 sofa king Jul 2016 #58

a month before and even on 9/11, there were many hijacking drills Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #65

Wonder how far this will be pursued. DirkGently Jul 2016 #73

I think it's pretty clear that they're not "potential" connections YoungDemCA Jul 2016 #77

With all the implications against the Saudis over the years and the US government still rladdi Jul 2016 #75

Quick question - raven mad Jul 2016 #83