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struggle4progress

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Sat Jul 16, 2016, 09:55 PM Jul 2016

Police and academics search Nice attacker’s history for a motive [View all]

Jason Burke
Saturday 16 July 2016 19.01 EDT

We know now that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, who killed 84 people and injured many more on Thursday evening in Nice, was 31, getting divorced and living in a working-class neighbourhood euphemistically described in the French press as “mixed”. He was an immigrant, as are most of his neighbours. One described him as a blédard, a hick from the old country – in his case Tunisia. Taciturn, Lahouaiej-Bouhlel scared the neighbours and was prone to angry outbursts. He beat his wife and was recently convicted of an assault on a motorist. He had a record of petty crime and a possible history of depression, but no known links to radical ideologies or networks ...

Lahouaiej-Bouhlel certainly matches the classic profile of French violent Islamic extremist in many ways – though he is a relatively recent arrival rather than born in the country of immigrant parents, as is more usually the case. He was a young, male petty criminal. He was also not devout, all witnesses so far agree. He did not fast during Ramadan, ate pork, drank, and was never seen at any local mosque.

This lack of piety among militants may seem confusing. It is, however, the rule rather than the exception. It was true of the dozen or so French and Belgian young men involved in bombings and shootings earlier this year, and of Mohammed Merah, who committed the first major attack in France in 2012. Other examples beyond France include that of Omar Mateen, who killed 49 in a Florida nightclub last month.

This apparent paradox has prompted a keen debate among experts. The argument has major policy implications. In France, it has been bitter. Olivier Roy, a well-known French scholar currently at the University of Europe in Florence, suggests those drawn into violent activism are already “in nihilist, generational revolt”. This is why so many are criminals, or marginal. Extremist Islam gives them a cause and frames anger and alienation in the way extremist leftwing ideologies did for some in the 1960s and 1970s. The new militants are thus not victims of “brainwashing” by cynical and fanatical recruiters. This is the Islamisation of radicalism, Roy says, not the radicalisation of Islam ...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/16/nice-truck-attack-terrorism-profile

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Attacker 'not linked' to any militant group struggle4progress Jul 2016 #1
After Nice carnage, motive remains sketchy struggle4progress Jul 2016 #2
Everything we know so far on Saturday struggle4progress Jul 2016 #3
A Surly Misfit With No Terror Links struggle4progress Jul 2016 #4
There is evidence of contacts with islamic handlers Albertoo Jul 2016 #6
Ya gotta link? I've been posting links struggle4progress Jul 2016 #8
WP: "Attacker in Nice is said to have radicalized ‘very rapidly’" Albertoo Jul 2016 #9
.. He "had not been known to the intelligence services because he did not stand out ... struggle4progress Jul 2016 #12
Sudden radicalization = not known to the intelligence services. But there is evidence now Albertoo Jul 2016 #13
... Investigators examining Bouhlel’s phone records found evidence that he was in contact with known struggle4progress Jul 2016 #14
One bird doesn't a spring make. 10, 100 birds? Albertoo Jul 2016 #15
Where did he get all the money he sent his family? There is evidence of other influence Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #17
Dunno. Stole it? Extorted it? Sold drugs successfully? There are many possibilities. struggle4progress Jul 2016 #18
lol melman Jul 2016 #19
Petty criminal with history of drug use and anger/violence issues. struggle4progress Jul 2016 #20
Maybe the money was compensation for garment industry work. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #23
He seems most recently to have been a delivery-driver struggle4progress Jul 2016 #24
A deradicalization psychiatrist working in that region say there is a surge in radicalization Albertoo Jul 2016 #5
Investigators look for motive in Nice truck attack struggle4progress Jul 2016 #7
Non Muslims do these things and they are considered crazy treestar Jul 2016 #10
Absolutely... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #11
Attacker followed the Daesh playbook. If a non Muslim follows a X attack book, then Albertoo Jul 2016 #16
If this guy was named Billy Bob and had attended a baptist church in the last 30 years Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #22
Amen Albertoo Jul 2016 #26
how come in France it's largely been Muslims in the recent major attacks ? JI7 Jul 2016 #25
Can someone just point them to DU? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #21
Violent angry man, maybe suicidal, finds religion Bradical79 Jul 2016 #27
"Death to Western infidels" would seem to be as good a guess as any (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #28
Bradical, Nye Bevan, your solutions are too clear and simple Albertoo Jul 2016 #29
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