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142. Every year, Spain translates more new books into Spanish than the *entire* Muslim world

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 09:40 PM

Jul 2016

has translated into Arabic in 1000 years. That's a disturbing fact, is it not? In places with Sharia law, the punishment for heresy is death. The punishment for apostasy is death.

There's a reason Islam hasn't experienced an Enlightenment period. It's a system that is considerably more airtight than most other religions, and more easily hands power to society's worst, most regressive specimens.

If Europe had put every Voltaire and Rousseau on the chopping block, they never would've seen an Enlightenment either.

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Terrorists are full of shit. [View all] bravenak Jul 2016 OP

Very well put meow2u3 Jul 2016 #1

Amen to that! Hulk Jul 2016 #90

These blasphemous savages caused many people to repudiate religion meow2u3 Jul 2016 #91

100% agree, bravenak. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #2

I hate to hate people but I think I hate them bravenak Jul 2016 #138

I know honey, sheshe2 Jul 2016 #139

Ok bravenak Jul 2016 #140

So he uses his left hand to touch the flag? Rex Jul 2016 #3

That's the thing bravenak Jul 2016 #9

well said... dhill926 Jul 2016 #4

Their god conveniently wants them to do all the horrible things wildeyed Jul 2016 #5

Very damn convenient bravenak Jul 2016 #10

How is it convenient? Marr Jul 2016 #74

+1 EL34x4 Jul 2016 #101

It really is. Marr Jul 2016 #108

So they grew up skepticscott Jul 2016 #22

What the heck are you talking about? Squinch Jul 2016 #30

Sheesh, you have no clue, do you? skepticscott Jul 2016 #34

I know perfectly well what ISIS has done, but your comments have nothing to do with Squinch Jul 2016 #45

Yes, the OP tried to make the same claim skepticscott Jul 2016 #75

Poor you. No one understands anything but you. It must be very lonely. Squinch Jul 2016 #98

Can you please plainly explain your point? Old Crow Jul 2016 #104

Huh? wildeyed Jul 2016 #40

Careful. Now he'll tell you that you shouldn't presume to comment in the thread because Squinch Jul 2016 #46

Maybe they mistook me for someone else? wildeyed Jul 2016 #50

Nope. It appears to just be the way he rolls. Squinch Jul 2016 #51

You said that they're just doing things they wanted to do all along skepticscott Jul 2016 #83

You posted a random fact with zero explanation of how that related to my post wildeyed Jul 2016 #85

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #93

The religion is pretty clear on where it stands Corporate666 Jul 2016 #60

The texts were written in the Iron Age. wildeyed Jul 2016 #84

+1. Well said. (nt) YoungDemCA Jul 2016 #109

I keep going back to the fact that Islam is now at about the same age that Christianity was Squinch Jul 2016 #112

Every year, Spain translates more new books into Spanish than the *entire* Muslim world Marr Jul 2016 #142

Voltaire and Rousseau came after the Inquisition and the Crusades. They would not have Squinch Jul 2016 #148

Ok... and what fueled the Inquisition and the Crusades...? Marr Jul 2016 #149

Blablablafightfightfight. Squinch Jul 2016 #150

No, you're making contradictory arguments and running off instead of Marr Jul 2016 #151

Blablablafightfightfightprojectprojectproject. Squinch Jul 2016 #152

I'll take that as a concession. Marr Jul 2016 #153

Blablablafightfightfight. All by yourself. Squinch Jul 2016 #154

I agree mcar Jul 2016 #6

So true SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #7

Daesh is an organized criminal gang. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #8

Yep, a fucking gang of thugs bravenak Jul 2016 #11

Amen! ReRe Jul 2016 #12

losers in life and using religion to justify what they do JI7 Jul 2016 #13

Precisely, well done. George II Jul 2016 #14

Most of these are really just mercenaries interested in making money and gaining newthinking Jul 2016 #15

Like a crusade of killers bravenak Jul 2016 #18

Mohammed telling them 72 virgins await them doesnt help ErikJ Jul 2016 #16

Mohammed has not told them a damn thing bravenak Jul 2016 #17

As do all religious believers skepticscott Jul 2016 #21

What's yours? bravenak Jul 2016 #25

Terrorists who do what they do skepticscott Jul 2016 #36

You in particular said 'all religious believers...' bravenak Jul 2016 #42

YOU said "As do all religious believers" wildeyed Jul 2016 #87

99.9% of modern religious believers manage to not kill, rape and pillage wildeyed Jul 2016 #44

The Koran is full of his commandments supposedly ErikJ Jul 2016 #29

I read somewhere that this is a mis-translation. The passage is correctly translated "70 raisins." Squinch Jul 2016 #28

My source on the "raisin/virgin" thing is the late Christopher Hitchens. oasis Jul 2016 #47

I saw it somewhere else, though. I can't remember where I saw it, but I know it wasn't CH. Squinch Jul 2016 #49

Some churches, temples and mosques are where hate is first heard and nurtured. Tikki Jul 2016 #19

We should focus energy on that of course bravenak Jul 2016 #27

Utter horseshit skepticscott Jul 2016 #20

What are you even going on about? Really? bravenak Jul 2016 #26

You're the one who said that religion is just an excuse in the OP skepticscott Jul 2016 #37

Umm hmm. That's great! bravenak Jul 2016 #38

+ a metric shit ton. opiate69 Jul 2016 #58

+1 Marr Jul 2016 #70

Get rich and rape women, mostly. wildeyed Jul 2016 #48

It is very interesting how a certain group simply doesn't see this. Of course Squinch Jul 2016 #99

Yep. world wide wally Jul 2016 #23

Useful idiots. forest444 Jul 2016 #31

Well, yeah Hekate Jul 2016 #24

Thank you. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #32

They're murderous chumps who fancy themselves "noble." VOX Jul 2016 #33

Very much a power grab bravenak Jul 2016 #41

Without Allah, would they really kill themselves? TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #35

People have gone to war over which rich person had the better claim to rule them bravenak Jul 2016 #39

Suicide attacks are still relatively rare TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #65

K&R... spanone Jul 2016 #43

Kick and recommended ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #52

As usual, bravenak rock Jul 2016 #53

Hey Brave- have you ever heard of Chalmers Johnson? 7wo7rees Jul 2016 #54

I wish people would worry about the op rather than my reading list or my passion. bravenak Jul 2016 #55

Sure Brave, got it. nt 7wo7rees Jul 2016 #95

Yes they are. puffy socks Jul 2016 #56

The flag melman Jul 2016 #57

Yeah. The flag that represents them obtaining glory and power through violence bravenak Jul 2016 #59

I would think the motives vary from person to person PersonNumber503602 Jul 2016 #61

I agree with this bravenak Jul 2016 #62

Simplistic facile thinking Arazi Jul 2016 #63

Where did anyone say they are not Muslims? bravenak Jul 2016 #64

Well that would put an end to your repertoire then wouldn't it? PoutrageFatigue Jul 2016 #80

+ a bazillion nt skepticscott Jul 2016 #81

You did in your OP Arazi Jul 2016 #105

You truncated my sentence to prove your point bravenak Jul 2016 #116

You are missing the point entirely. Squinch Jul 2016 #103

The OP is all about how this is not being done in the name of Islam Arazi Jul 2016 #106

No, the OP is about how saying that it is being done in the name of Islam is a ton of Squinch Jul 2016 #110

They say it themselves. Who are you and the OP to tell different? Arazi Jul 2016 #111

You are accusing me of something that is not anywhere in my posts about this to you. Squinch Jul 2016 #113

Thank you for this post bravenak Jul 2016 #119

It didn't do any good. I get that the difference between what you are saying and what Squinch Jul 2016 #121

Another arrogant westerner, claiming to know the Arab mind better than they do themselves. Marr Jul 2016 #66

They do say why bravenak Jul 2016 #67

Paul Revere and all them guys: TERRORISTS! TRAITORS to the king! Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #68

That's just nonsense. Marr Jul 2016 #69

I see alot of thirst for vengeance and rage against westerners bravenak Jul 2016 #72

You haven't listened much then. Marr Jul 2016 #73

Speaking of nonsense BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #76

That's untrue Democat Jul 2016 #71

Amazing that someone who has a fit skepticscott Jul 2016 #82

You're claiming the same thing lol treestar Jul 2016 #88

There's no interpretation from me. I'm describing their own statements. Marr Jul 2016 #92

Ummm...no skepticscott Jul 2016 #94

I don't necessarily believe what they say treestar Jul 2016 #97

Me neither. I do not beliebe their lying asses bravenak Jul 2016 #117

Defending religious privilege is not going to help.... MellowDem Jul 2016 #77

Their hearts are filled with miserable hatred, so it is easy for them to kill innocent people. dubyadiprecession Jul 2016 #78

Agree, a bunch of gang bangers out to entertain themselves, wouldn't know Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #79

"Terrorists are full of shit", an dthey are fueled by religions and/or nationalism Albertoo Jul 2016 #86

Or, thinking it is all about religion fosters even more such attacks. Festivito Jul 2016 #89

They seem religious enough to me. backscatter712 Jul 2016 #96

You're ignoring their very own words. They get to own their shit Arazi Jul 2016 #100

I say they're like a biker gang. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #102

Or a drug cartel. Organized crime bravenak Jul 2016 #132

Terrorism has a 100% failure rate PJMcK Jul 2016 #107

K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #114

This is creative speculation. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #115

In the picture the things he cares for are prominently displayed bravenak Jul 2016 #118

Books often get worn and dirty from regular use. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #120

Flags get frayed and worn but that one is in tip top condition bravenak Jul 2016 #128

Could just be a new flag. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #133

If he loves the book why no put a nice cover on it? bravenak Jul 2016 #136

I guess the same could be said about my favorite books. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #144

But you are not so passionate that you are willing to rape and kill for the idology in those books bravenak Jul 2016 #145

No. I don't feel compelled to hurt people from my favorite books. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #146

I can agree that they believe in their god bravenak Jul 2016 #147

Well you said there is no such thing as good and evil, so this is about something you don't believe Rex Jul 2016 #123

My post was about evidence. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #124

Evidence this guy is good, evil or just a poser imo is not in just that picture. Rex Jul 2016 #125

The OP says terrorists aren't motivated by their faith in God. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #126

I agree with the OP, imo they are charlitans like 'profit ministries'. Rex Jul 2016 #127

I'm sorry, but this is absurd. Of course they want power. Marr Jul 2016 #129

You have to ask what they want to do with it? Rex Jul 2016 #130

Me too. Amazed it still works after thousands of years. bravenak Jul 2016 #134

No, I don't have to ask-- that's my point. Marr Jul 2016 #141

Why do you think they are charlatans? ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #131

Why would one need money or power if they have faith? Religious reasons as in to build a church? Rex Jul 2016 #135

Seems to me people's politics dictates faith more than holy books. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #143

They are full of shit, con men looking for an easy way out. Rex Jul 2016 #122

Fuck yeah bravenak Jul 2016 #137