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In reply to the discussion: Islam, as it is practiced by a majority of muslims in the world, is a regressive force. [View all]cprise
(8,445 posts)94. But repeating the West's history would make them
...a very big threat. No?
And how does a population that is constantly interfered with (to put it mildly) find the generosity of spirit to pursue progressive goals?
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Islam, as it is practiced by a majority of muslims in the world, is a regressive force. [View all]
Kurska
Jul 2016
OP
its practiced by close to a plurality of the world, not anywhere close to a majority
ericson00
Jul 2016
#3
I meant as it is practiced by a majority of Muslims, not as a majority of the world.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#4
are Evangelicals bad people or Mormons bad people? No, but progressives criticize their religion
ericson00
Jul 2016
#9
Pretending that the current social policies are anything but continous from ones thousands of years
Kurska
Jul 2016
#99
I'm not an "Islam-defender"...It's just that I'm not an anti-Islam obsessive.
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#113
"Nothing anyone said about the Soviet model from outside had anything to do with it. '
Kurska
Jul 2016
#141
I agree that those countries are backwards places. Repression anywhere should be denounced.
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#186
So Ken, please dictate the limits LGBT must respect when objecting to the lash and
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#143
Wasn't talking about LGBTQ people here, and would never limit your right to speak out.
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#177
Well, I live in Malaysia for a while. Women are required to dress like muslim women need to
Feeling the Bern
Jul 2016
#71
the colonialism the Muslim world experienced pales in comparison to that of sub-Saharan Africa,
ericson00
Jul 2016
#14
Now imagine there was a HDI and victimization of colonialism map overlaid ontop of that
Kurska
Jul 2016
#24
the West Indies are very anti gay in cultrure, but many of the smaller islands don't do
AntiBank
Jul 2016
#60
How have you managed to separate terrorism from social development and progress?
sibelian
Jul 2016
#154
Most Muslims live in lands forcibly converted by Arab/Muslim colonizers. Was it racism?
Albertoo
Jul 2016
#75
Why would the colonized have a more regressive view of women, homosexuals and ethnic
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2016
#130
The western world's progressive values *resulted* in its wealth and education...
sibelian
Jul 2016
#161
"Christianity, as it is practiced by a majority of Christians in the world, is a regressive force."
enough
Jul 2016
#18
DU has no problem admitting that, so I don't understand why the inverse is offensive to people EOM
Kurska
Jul 2016
#21
"How come I can criticize white people but people call me a bigot when I criticize black people?"
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#157
You honestly see no difference between someone saying "stupid white people" and someone saying
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#160
So if someone said "I hate Christians" you'd treat them the same as somone who said "I hate Jews"?
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#169
Also, I criticize the religion, and the repressive culture that has formed around the religion.
backscatter712
Jul 2016
#163
If you're not criticizing the people, perhaps don't write "See how they act?" to show us how
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#170
Because those who want to label Islam as "regressive" only want that label put in place
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#191
African slave trade was originally and finally a Muslim practice, they started it and
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#33
The post I responded to, you asked if Christianity was the root cause of slavery, I pointed
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#144
The OP is about Islam which is a school of thought that includes execution of LGBT.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#37
The OP is about Islam which is a school of thought that includes execution of LGBT.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#142
Even scarier is what muslims think of other religions in muslim majority countries
MariaThinks
Jul 2016
#34
have you read the numbers? what is the acceptance of Christianity or Judaism in the
MariaThinks
Jul 2016
#50
It is recent problem because there is nothing inhiretently in Islam against Jews/Christians
kcjohn1
Jul 2016
#51
Not only recent. There is a long history of persecutions of non-Muslims in Muslim lands.
hrmjustin
Jul 2016
#83
"Asked of Muslims only" I wonder what the results would be if we only asked Muslims about...
ck4829
Jul 2016
#41
No, compare nations like Brazil/Bolivia/Vietnam/ to nations like Egypt/Iran/Algeria/Morocco.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#49
It certainly can be. The biggest problem are people who are conservative/Fundamentalist types
The Straight Story
Jul 2016
#46
Straight, we have, at long last, found a subject on which we wholeheartedly agree. Great post.
Squinch
Jul 2016
#129
Iraq sell their oil on the open market like every other oil producing country.
EX500rider
Jul 2016
#211
"Oil was still being stolen unmetered as of 2007" Any reputable links for that?
EX500rider
Jul 2016
#237
who ever said that? Not everyone who criticizes any aspect of Islam is a warmonger!
ericson00
Jul 2016
#66
Worse: Islam has been devised as an regressive force extremely difficult to reform
Albertoo
Jul 2016
#69
we already know right wing christians suck and it's good we have separation of church and state
JI7
Jul 2016
#93
I don't care. And "turn the other cheek" and "slay the infidels" are two very different ideologies
Albertoo
Jul 2016
#100
Right as a gay man there is no way I'm concerned about the plight of gay people in those countries
Kurska
Jul 2016
#224
It seems to me that Islam was largely ignored until 1979 when the Iranians
no_hypocrisy
Jul 2016
#155
Is there an 'Islamic underground' that tries to change these beliefs that gays should be killed?
randome
Jul 2016
#182
Except the overwhelming support for ultra-orthodox like positions in the Muslim world.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#218
But Kurska, you could replace Islam with most other religions and the statement would still be true
KamaAina
Jul 2016
#192
Anyone who does not call out all the religions that push bigotry is parroting the right wing.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#196
Because it is true of most religions, but saying it of Islam is offensive here.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#216
How bout not criticizng Islam at all, while one attacks ever other organized religion.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#236
Not surprisingly, the OP is written by a supporter of oppression and aggressive wars against Muslims
cpwm17
Jul 2016
#198
why does no other religious group around the world take such extreme offense
ericson00
Jul 2016
#207
who started the slave trade in Africa? Which country was the last to formally abolish slavery?
ericson00
Jul 2016
#209
Does any of that matter to people stoned to death for loving the 'wrong' person?
randome
Jul 2016
#210
If a woman in a western country wants to walk away from a religion or a marriage, she can.
randome
Jul 2016
#217
I agree, religion is not the problem. Culture is. Killing for minor offenses is codified in law.
randome
Jul 2016
#227
As a rule, I have a great dislike philosophically for all of the Abrahamic religions.
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#214
I'm gonna guess you don't know a majority of Muslims in the world and so
struggle4progress
Jul 2016
#223