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141. People who believe in the Bill of Rights shouldn't be allowed?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jul 2016

Are you going to purge the ACLU next?

Why are the gun defenders here? [View all] SCantiGOP Jul 2016 OP
I ask this question repeatedly. Why is there even an area here dedicated to NRA talking points? villager Jul 2016 #1
If you want to ban progressive, pro-2A Democrats from "Democratic" Underground, see the Ads... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #175
I haven't seen ANY gun defenders Motley13 Jul 2016 #2
Look at any gun-related thread SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #6
Money, meet mouth Android3.14 Jul 2016 #48
Mouth, met money Android3.14 Jul 2016 #50
Spend 10 minutes browsing the RKBA forum SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #55
Democrats own firearms Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #64
I do not own a gun; but JG will defend the US Constitution. Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #97
Good for you Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #98
Some around here don't like the Fifth either. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #171
So we should simply agree without discussing? krispos42 Jul 2016 #115
A CBS national reporter waltzed into a gun shop and had an AR-15 in less than an hour. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #276
But not a fully automatic AR-15 hack89 Jul 2016 #277
I believe she is also under investigation Separation Jul 2016 #283
And....? krispos42 Jul 2016 #285
The only way you can have missed those posts is by missing them on purpose Orrex Jul 2016 #7
All you have to do is go to the RKBA and 2nd Amendment group and you will see plenty of them. n/t doc03 Jul 2016 #9
Start here KeepItReal Jul 2016 #12
Oh you're not looking rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #13
Should have been here while they defended george zimmerman for stalking, intimidating, and killing Hoyt Jul 2016 #33
Give them a chance Bettie Jul 2016 #83
There are plenty of Democrats who are for gun control but not a complete ban Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #3
Most of us don't favor any such "complete ban" language rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #16
Those were the only threads that got the reaction the the OP is discussing today. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #53
There are quite a few on DU Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #65
Correct. Anyone in favor of gun control is called a 'gun grabber'. Kingofalldems Jul 2016 #87
And anyone NOT in favor ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #137
Careful with that 'gun grabber' when 'gun humper' & 'ammosexual' are in the air.... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #172
Absolutely no idea what that means. Kingofalldems Jul 2016 #174
Good. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #176
It was a joke Separation Jul 2016 #284
It's what sells guns. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #282
.+1 840high Jul 2016 #80
NRA has bots that monitor discussion forums and are alerted when applegrove Jul 2016 #4
Really? TeddyR Jul 2016 #59
I bet there's proof somewhere.... ileus Jul 2016 #122
Maybe it goes under heading: "First smelt it, Dealt it." Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #178
In part because the right to keep and bear arms is a civil liberty and needs defending aikoaiko Jul 2016 #5
not true - I have had conversations with a DUer who believes there should be ablsolutely NO DrDan Jul 2016 #27
Sure, and there are a few people who say to ban and confiscate every gun. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #35
"A DUer" "couple years back" "not going to look for it" = Milestones get no respect! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #179
it still happened . . . but feel free to disrespect all you like DrDan Jul 2016 #181
In a hurricane of controller denigration, you have found a puff of insult? Impressive. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #186
I had one say that in a thread two days ago. Exilednight Jul 2016 #190
Link, or your claim is bullshit. n/t friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #195
there was a DU-2 poll related to gun restrictions - that poll showed 5 DUers who favored DrDan Jul 2016 #214
And one person calling for a complete ban on guns, which proves...what, exactly? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #231
there are multiple posts in this thread calling for evidence of DUers supporting no restrictions DrDan Jul 2016 #240
I'm pretty sure that current examples are whats being asked for, not 5 year old threads. N/T beevul Jul 2016 #246
I personally would not assume to know what a poster is asking for beyond DrDan Jul 2016 #256
Sure you wouldn't. beevul Jul 2016 #264
yet it represents evidence of no-restriction DUers, doesn't it - as asked for DrDan Jul 2016 #267
Not exactly, but you know that. beevul Jul 2016 #269
wow - that's quite a stretch - but totally in character for gunners DrDan Jul 2016 #271
Wow, that's quite a denial - but totally in character for anti-gunners. beevul Jul 2016 #273
yep - nothing concealed here DrDan Jul 2016 #274
Euromutt, Iverglas! God, it's a time warp. Hope they are all alive and kicking. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #259
Iverglas is on Discussionist. n/t Waldorf Jul 2016 #263
Really? Probably a better fit! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #266
You know I can't link since it is against TOS to call out another member. Exilednight Jul 2016 #243
Then it should be easy for you to link to it then Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #201
I'm waiting to see that one too n/t shadowrider Jul 2016 #213
You know I can't link since it is against TOS to call out another member. Exilednight Jul 2016 #244
A link is not a callout Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #253
I think it 'exists' in the same way the purported 'NRA posting bounty' program does- friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #268
From the TOS Exilednight Jul 2016 #272
Well I tend to disagree Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #281
More likely you can't link because your claim is false. $50 to the Brady Campaign says so... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #262
Heh. More hazy recollections than actual events. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #209
Heh. DrDan Jul 2016 #241
Good job, Dr Dan SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #242
Palming off a 5 year old thread as one from 'a couple of days ago' isn't a good job, it's... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #265
2011, not "I had one say that in a thread two days ago." Fail. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #260
Awww you gave them a sadz! Rex Jul 2016 #219
As the saying went when I was a small iconoclast: Not hardly... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #232
Gun nuts are not exclusive to GOP liberal N proud Jul 2016 #8
Can you link to any post sarisataka Jul 2016 #10
OK, I'll alter my OP to say: SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #18
A change without meaning hack89 Jul 2016 #21
Thanks for proving my point SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #23
I disagree with your basic premise hack89 Jul 2016 #25
So, in your little part of the world, nearly every gun owner support gun control Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #90
The OP is about DU. hack89 Jul 2016 #95
Esoteric? Straw Man Jul 2016 #140
All that change does sarisataka Jul 2016 #24
"Help Help I'm Being Repressed !" is that what you're expecting? Demonaut Jul 2016 #63
What's sensible? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #66
FWIW, I think the 2nd amendment should be interpreted that way. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #19
The purpose of the 2nd amendment was to keep the oppressed oppressed. hunter Jul 2016 #107
I find it interesting how many in the UK pretend WW2 pipoman Jul 2016 #124
I'm not sure where that came from. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #149
i think beergood Jul 2016 #154
Surely not. But American citizens were in a position to help Britain, due to civilians jmg257 Jul 2016 #155
And after the war oneshooter Jul 2016 #157
With all those early-build Lend-Lease M1s. jmg257 Jul 2016 #163
About right. Straw Man Jul 2016 #139
I think that's a price worth paying for the difference in our rates of firearm deaths to you. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #150
False equivalence. Straw Man Jul 2016 #191
"The purpose of the 2nd amendment was to allow the formulation of civilian militias" jmg257 Jul 2016 #153
Ties my stomach into knots every time we have a mass shooting. Laurian Jul 2016 #11
had a conversation here with a DUer who claims if relatives are involved in a shooting, they DrDan Jul 2016 #29
Link, please... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #162
here you go DrDan Jul 2016 #165
Which was a response to your 1 example from seven years previously... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #193
I was asked for an example of a mass murder by a CCW holder - which I provided (actually several) DrDan Jul 2016 #196
You have left out the reponse to your post 33 in that subthread: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #198
those family members do not count as mass murder victims - per that DUer DrDan Jul 2016 #200
Congratulations, you found one- BTW, I disagree with that poster friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #202
my original post on this subtopic did say "a DUer" - never claimed it was a majorty-view, DrDan Jul 2016 #205
Bernie Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #14
Many Democrats like guns. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #15
Democrats aren't opposed to hunting SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #22
Most people in the US hunt with rifles, as opposed to bows, ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #34
We stated Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #68
When people on this website shadowrider Jul 2016 #220
"weapons that should be restricted to military" beevul Jul 2016 #146
We are not talking about fishing and hunting (food anyway). Gunners support toting Hoyt Jul 2016 #36
The OP isn't very clear about that. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #44
That is your threshold? SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #46
No, my threshold is scientific evidence. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #76
Not allowing prisoners to have guns, is not anywhere near the restrictions we need on gun polluters Hoyt Jul 2016 #167
We don't need restrictions, we desire restrictions. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #173
Yeah, like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2016 #156
And it looks like his finger is on the trigger. shadowrider Jul 2016 #223
Most of the gun controllers on DU are urban Democrats who believe pipoman Jul 2016 #125
+1 DashOneBravo Jul 2016 #133
I would add that many Southern metropolises are made up of formerly "rural" people... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #184
Because of all the other important issues like choice, hack89 Jul 2016 #17
If they want to defend guns, fine. The ones that I really can't stand are the people who tell you Chakab Jul 2016 #20
You can discuss inaccurate info/reporting all you want. Just don't expect it to go unchallenged. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #189
This OP was alerted on! pangaia Jul 2016 #26
A "Dumb Alert" option would be cool. n/t Beartracks Jul 2016 #38
there is an option to say you think the alert was divisive or in bad faith. drray23 Jul 2016 #58
It's a big tent. egduj Jul 2016 #28
Trolls are everywhere randr Jul 2016 #30
From the 2012 DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM NashuaDW Jul 2016 #31
Say it isn't so Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #69
More importantly... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #148
"No Gun Restrictions" defenders AKA a big strawman. beevul Jul 2016 #32
There are those who support guns as vehemently as any right winger. Hoyt Jul 2016 #37
Yes, they're also Democrats, so whats your point? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #39
If you say so. Lots of Gungeoneers have been banned for their white wing ideology. Hoyt Jul 2016 #43
And some for being anti-gun trolls. beevul Jul 2016 #45
Hey, Cta102..c'mon over Nancyswidower Jul 2016 #101
A Discussionist Gunner. LMAO. What was your previous User Name here? Hoyt Jul 2016 #103
I don't own guns...don't like them...don't hate those that do.. Nancyswidower Jul 2016 #104
What did he say that was incorrect Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #70
A lot of these posts are illustrating your point Nevernose Jul 2016 #40
I think everyone got it.. pipoman Jul 2016 #127
Depending on the poll, something like 25-40% of Dems TeddyR Jul 2016 #41
Would not call myself a defender GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #42
I agree Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #71
I can agree 1939 Jul 2016 #94
There is some history here. Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #47
"Something happened?" MicaelS Jul 2016 #134
Can you back that assertion up with some examples from past party platforms? hack89 Jul 2016 #142
Let's look at the ebb and flow of Democratic Party interests in guns. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #180
The Beltway has become convinced the NRA is all powerful.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #49
Most RKBA supporters on DU don't believe in "no gun restrictions" Statistical Jul 2016 #51
I have never seen one that does Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #72
Because gun threads mean lots of clicks SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #52
Basically, my whole Ignore list CanonRay Jul 2016 #54
Because not all democrats agree on every single issue. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #56
To support fascists & spread RW propaganda. baldguy Jul 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #160
Would that include those that suddenly embraced terrorist watch lists when guns were mentioned... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #233
No, but it does include those who ignore the terrorists in our midst baldguy Jul 2016 #234
Should they be "harassed, investigated & arrested for their political beliefs"? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #237
What I described is the fascist RW fantasy. Try to keep up. baldguy Jul 2016 #239
You embraced the terror watch lists when people you don't like became targets... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #261
Hey ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #60
Heh. How much you think this social security recipient is getting? New car? Condo on South Beach? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #194
FF intent recentevents Jul 2016 #61
And 30,000 + gun related deaths a year is enough of a reason WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2016 #81
You ready? 2/3 of those deaths are suicide. Just clearing it up. Thanx. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #275
Its because we refuse to REALLY effectively deal with the problem. jmg257 Jul 2016 #164
thats something i have wondered about as well. drray23 Jul 2016 #62
Wonder no more... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #197
A certain pro control host Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #210
Shhh. Save that one for future posts. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #217
I will defend the right of the GOP to bring their own toys to their own convention Doodley Jul 2016 #67
This might come as a shock to you but many Democrats own firearms and believe in the 2nd Waldorf Jul 2016 #73
Not if you had read this thread SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #74
Thats essentially nobody on DU. beevul Jul 2016 #96
I know, I bet he could not link to a single post Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #100
and who would those be Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #99
Yeah, they believe in lots of guns, public toting, stand your ground, no registration, etc. Hoyt Jul 2016 #84
If someone supports all other democratic party and progressive positions, but also PersonNumber503602 Jul 2016 #75
If you support the Democratic party position, as outlined in the party platform GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #88
Because a consistent position is.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #77
nothing inherently wrong with owning guns and all of us can't be hippie leftists. craigmatic Jul 2016 #78
Guns are not a partisan issue. JohnnyRingo Jul 2016 #79
because gun humping cowards are EVERYWHERE Skittles Jul 2016 #82
so you are calling fellow DU members Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #102
Gun Control begin at Home HockeyMom Jul 2016 #85
They like to rub it in our faces, they post with a smile on their face. Rex Jul 2016 #86
In a sea of controller insult, you discover a smiley face?? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #199
LOL as if anyone is trying to take away your guns, please. Rex Jul 2016 #206
Another just-add-water narrative? Thought so. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #208
So, no proof at all. Just what I thought. Rex Jul 2016 #211
Sorry, but you asserted a position, you provide your proof. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #215
Boring, you again fail to claim who is coming for your guns. Rex Jul 2016 #218
In the Old School, that would be a wife-beating question, and I ain't been married. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #221
You made the claim of gun collectors yet you cannot produce any evidence of it. Rex Jul 2016 #224
Gun collector's "claim?" New to me. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #257
Got to get a brew since it's 100 goddam degrees here. Stay cool. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #225
Better be careful! Obama might jump out of the fridge and take your gunnz! Rex Jul 2016 #226
I've got an unrepairable .22 he can have in exchange for $30 worth of groceries! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #255
Silly question. Lots of other reasons. Lots and lots. Silly silly silly. eom Festivito Jul 2016 #89
because their 2nd amendment right to a murder machine is more important than your right to live Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #91
กกก WOLVERINES !!!1 VOX Jul 2016 #92
Pavlovian Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #93
Good question... why are YOU here? whistler162 Jul 2016 #105
i have hunted and owned guns for years but lately I have had to put some DU "gun humppers" .... Botany Jul 2016 #106
Who might those be? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #108
It was ME! I gotta a free cruise to Cedar Key, Florida! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #203
I should have known Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #207
Well, you always fall for that cruise to Port Atrocity, TX. It's a scam! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #212
I know, signed up at least a dozen times Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #228
Who is paid, paid by whom, and what is your evidence? Marengo Jul 2016 #110
No doubt and they try way too hard. Rex Jul 2016 #222
And just what DU members say that? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #229
When did Democrat=Anti-Gun? Calculating Jul 2016 #109
Their has always been some anti-gun Democrats.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #117
Because we are rights defenders. needledriver Jul 2016 #111
This.... Calculating Jul 2016 #112
A lot of it has to do with the controller crowd... TipTok Jul 2016 #113
EXACTLY.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #118
Do you blame all blacks, muslims, etc for what some in that group do? The Straight Story Jul 2016 #114
Because anti-gun bias is not rational, so it's not progressive either Albertoo Jul 2016 #116
i havnt seen many gun defenders either TroyJackson Jul 2016 #119
Guess you haven't spent any time in the Gungeon durring your one/two day membership. Hoyt Jul 2016 #128
Because some of us believe in the Constitution. All of it. LAGC Jul 2016 #120
Many of us are progressive on all rights... ileus Jul 2016 #121
Gunz are not "progressive," but nice to see you peeking out of the Gungeon. Hoyt Jul 2016 #129
Civil rights are progressive. beevul Jul 2016 #147
Gunz are not a civil right, and I detest gunners who try to elevate it to that level as if they were Hoyt Jul 2016 #169
Yes, gun ownership is a constitutionally protected civil right... beevul Jul 2016 #235
Your quote does not mention frigging gunz, nor are guns or gun lovers anywhere near those Hoyt Jul 2016 #236
I know its difficult for you... beevul Jul 2016 #245
Right wing interpretation, hopefully Court will change. Hoyt Jul 2016 #247
Accurate interpretation. beevul Jul 2016 #248
Why are warmonger defenders here? Bankster defenders? Corporation defenders? Scuba Jul 2016 #123
Yup.. G_j Jul 2016 #188
Why do urban Democrats pretend rural Democrats don't exist? pipoman Jul 2016 #126
Why do rural democrats have 10+ guns, tote in a relatively safe area, promote guns even though Hoyt Jul 2016 #130
None of your concern, that's why.. pipoman Jul 2016 #132
Gun Pollution is everyone's concern, should be yours too. Hoyt Jul 2016 #135
No, what is in someone's closet is none of your or my concern pipoman Jul 2016 #136
Unfortunately, you guys don't keep them in your closet. Tucking them in your pants and Hoyt Jul 2016 #145
so your ok with it beergood Jul 2016 #158
No, I'm fine with someone keeping one or two guns for hunting at home, (no semi-autos), and home Hoyt Jul 2016 #166
See - now that's sorta stating to get reasonable - guess my "bad hobby" isn't so bad! jmg257 Jul 2016 #168
Sorry, semi-autos are assault weapons as the term is commonly used. Will kill a lot of people, Hoyt Jul 2016 #170
No detachable mags, 8-rnd capacity, no funky stocks - very reasonable! nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #182
"Guns are not a "civil right,"" Everything in the Bill of Rights are civil rights. EX500rider Jul 2016 #230
Coming next from the gun bunnies SheriffBob Jul 2016 #249
This is as close as you can get. oneshooter Jul 2016 #250
Where I love, most people own some kind of gun... Adrahil Jul 2016 #131
Good, sounds like you could give them up -- semi-autos anyway -- for the good of society. Hoyt Jul 2016 #252
That's extremely unlikely to happen, of course... Adrahil Jul 2016 #258
Oh, so you are not just a hunter of meat to feed your family. Hoyt Jul 2016 #270
Needed to be said lillypaddle Jul 2016 #138
People who believe in the Bill of Rights shouldn't be allowed? LAGC Jul 2016 #141
Because the Democratic party supports the individual ownership of guns hack89 Jul 2016 #143
Some are just straight up right wing trolls Matrosov Jul 2016 #144
WoW, That thread is 5 years old... maser Jul 2016 #204
Some people see it that way HassleCat Jul 2016 #151
I'd like to see guns banned - it worked in Australia, but Democrats can be pro-gun Doodley Jul 2016 #152
Australia did not ban all guns hack89 Jul 2016 #279
Aren't you the one who claimed the founders intended people to possess only hunting weapons? Marengo Jul 2016 #159
They are here for this. MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #161
I support the constitution bighart Jul 2016 #177
Trash their group. Walk away Jul 2016 #183
I had a post removed by jury decision after pointing out the same thing Exilednight Jul 2016 #185
just a note: the NRA worked to DEFEAT Obama. G_j Jul 2016 #187
Says it all. SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #192
YEP. Rex Jul 2016 #216
And what percentage of gun owners are NRA members? nt hack89 Jul 2016 #280
Because here is home? LP2K12 Jul 2016 #227
Good thing there were people with guns in Nice and on the Wurzburg train Albertoo Jul 2016 #238
Probably for the same reason anoNY42 Jul 2016 #251
Neither you nor any govt. will take my firearms away from me. GOLGO 13 Jul 2016 #254
Controllers lose a lot of debates, here. No wonder they want us gone! Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #278
I just had a Opening Post on this topic locked in General Discussion... Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #286
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