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0rganism

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11. looks like a decent play by Orange Foolius
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jul 2016

this is actually winning rhetoric. when people vote for a president, they're voting top-level priorities.

policy detail is secondary, arguably for good reasons: situations change, congress gets hold of it, etc. when a president goes to the trouble of laying out detailed policies, it rarely turns out as promised. so voters are okay with a candidate who's willing to say "i'll demand this and that" and let it roll from there. vagueness is not necessarily a deal-killer.

so when Trump says "i'm going to kill them all" it doesn't matter that he won't say how he'll do it, or how he'll avoid civilian casualties, or how he'll handle whatever ugly phoenix rises from their ashes in 3 years. no, that doesn't make a lot of difference in this context. what he's doing is stating clearly a priority that a lot of voters find agreeable: destroy ISIS. this is one of the less controversial things he's done, and it's got Manafort written all over it: "Just talk about killing our enemies, Donald, and for fuck's sake stay on script."

Hillary's going to snow him on policy anyway, she is the ultimate policy wonk. but on issues of national security people vote for the appearance of strong leadership, not ultimate wonkiness, so that's where Trump can make a play based on attitude and flim flam.

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He is clueless. avebury Jul 2016 #1
Trump is terrifyingly clueless BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #2
Does Trump have a private intelligence agency or will he be sinkingfeeling Jul 2016 #3
But it sounded tough; that's all that matteres gratuitous Jul 2016 #4
More like poor people's children will fight in Syria while my kids have other priorities Johonny Jul 2016 #5
Just once, I'd like to see a journalist pin the SOB down. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #6
Trump would sooner "cut a deal" with ISIS, and then try to brag about it. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #7
Trump knows NOTHING about foreign policy IgelJames4 Jul 2016 #8
Furthermore, he says "bigly" and thinks it's a word. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #9
"Big league" doesn't sound any better. ronnie624 Jul 2016 #18
I wish Stahl had pointed out that Obama had a 66 nation coalition, including the NATO karynnj Jul 2016 #10
Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #14
looks like a decent play by Orange Foolius 0rganism Jul 2016 #11
Obama (and by extension, Hillary) Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #15
c'mon, we both know what their initial point of attack will be 0rganism Jul 2016 #19
Yeah, I suppose you're right Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author 0rganism Jul 2016 #19
It's the way he says he'll get "unbelievable intelligence" that gave me the facepalm moment muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #12
Heaven help us indeed Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #13
The Trump-Pence 60 Minutes Interview Is the Epitome of ‘Sad!’ womanofthehills Jul 2016 #16
Actions speak louder than words? sorefeet Jul 2016 #17
Like Cheney and Bush smoked Terrorists out of their holes? tenderfoot Jul 2016 #22
My money is on him using nukes redStateBlueHeart Jul 2016 #23
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