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guillaumeb

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204. 1) How many nuclear devices have been used by a majority Muslim country?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jul 2016

2) Is the country with the largest war budget in the world a majority Muslim country?

3) Is the country with the largest number of imprisoned citizens a majority Muslim country?

4) Is the country founded on slavery and genocide really a role model? A country were non-whites are still discriminated against?

Shall I continue? No, there is really no point in attempting to respond to such a ridiculous post, however thinly disguised as an honest attempt to discuss the issues.

This should go well.... Scurrilous Jul 2016 #1
+1 bravenak Jul 2016 #2
its practiced by close to a plurality of the world, not anywhere close to a majority ericson00 Jul 2016 #3
I meant as it is practiced by a majority of Muslims, not as a majority of the world. Kurska Jul 2016 #4
probably should fix the title of the thread ericson00 Jul 2016 #5
Clearer? EOM Kurska Jul 2016 #6
yes. ericson00 Jul 2016 #11
That claim is simply false and sad Gothmog Jul 2016 #179
Yeah, yeah we get it.... Muslims are bad. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #7
are Evangelicals bad people or Mormons bad people? No, but progressives criticize their religion ericson00 Jul 2016 #9
+1 Kurska Jul 2016 #12
Putting our economic/military strength behind wahabists cprise Jul 2016 #77
If the tables were turned, I still wouldn't be stoning women and killing gays. Kurska Jul 2016 #78
Most of the 20th century would beg to disagree with your tautology. cprise Jul 2016 #92
Pretending that the current social policies are anything but continous from ones thousands of years Kurska Jul 2016 #99
A truly excellent reply that is obviously not in tune guillaumeb Jul 2016 #226
Basic difference: No one in the U.S. foreign policy establishment... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #105
the US FP establishment is NOT pushing some kind of ericson00 Jul 2016 #109
I'm not an "Islam-defender"...It's just that I'm not an anti-Islam obsessive. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #113
"Nothing anyone said about the Soviet model from outside had anything to do with it. ' Kurska Jul 2016 #141
I agree that those countries are backwards places. Repression anywhere should be denounced. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #186
So Ken, please dictate the limits LGBT must respect when objecting to the lash and Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #143
Wasn't talking about LGBTQ people here, and would never limit your right to speak out. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #177
It's just about the same as the rhetoric of colonialism Chathamization Jul 2016 #195
Therefore, we should send in the Marines. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #199
Such tolerant liberals don't mind 840high Jul 2016 #54
I agree that secular liberals, such as myself, should be able to criticize Chakab Jul 2016 #64
Except Muslims aren't making the laws here cprise Jul 2016 #81
+1 n/t TubbersUK Jul 2016 #133
Thank you! ++++++++++ grossproffit Jul 2016 #123
Well, I live in Malaysia for a while. Women are required to dress like muslim women need to Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #71
Your post NEEDS to be READ and REREAD grossproffit Jul 2016 #124
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #73
Not all of the people... TipTok Jul 2016 #98
the concept of separation of church and state is lacking JI7 Jul 2016 #8
You might as well say "Brown/Black" people are regressive force in world kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #10
I gave a list of many Muslim countries that are far from third world. Kurska Jul 2016 #13
Those countries certainly are incredibly rich... for some people ck4829 Jul 2016 #15
Mostly for the Native Citizens in areas like UAE. Kurska Jul 2016 #16
Wealth in Gulf is not because of advanced soceity kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #20
+1 cheapdate Jul 2016 #84
+1 TubbersUK Jul 2016 #184
Have you met an ulta-orthodox Jew? Gothmog Jul 2016 #180
the colonialism the Muslim world experienced pales in comparison to that of sub-Saharan Africa, ericson00 Jul 2016 #14
South America is another very good example of this EOM Kurska Jul 2016 #17
Those countries just imprison gays for years at a time or up to life ck4829 Jul 2016 #19
Now imagine there was a HDI and victimization of colonialism map overlaid ontop of that Kurska Jul 2016 #24
Your agenda is so obvious, I shouldn't bother kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #23
The Middle East is far behind every single area of the world on these issues Kurska Jul 2016 #25
Why do you think gays have similar rights (no rights) in places like kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #28
the West Indies are very anti gay in cultrure, but many of the smaller islands don't do AntiBank Jul 2016 #60
How have you managed to separate terrorism from social development and progress? sibelian Jul 2016 #154
Most Muslims live in lands forcibly converted by Arab/Muslim colonizers. Was it racism? Albertoo Jul 2016 #75
Colonialism 1939 Jul 2016 #104
Why would the colonized have a more regressive view of women, homosexuals and ethnic Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #130
Islam pre-dates colonialism get the red out Jul 2016 #131
The western world's progressive values *resulted* in its wealth and education... sibelian Jul 2016 #161
"Christianity, as it is practiced by a majority of Christians in the world, is a regressive force." enough Jul 2016 #18
DU has no problem admitting that, so I don't understand why the inverse is offensive to people EOM Kurska Jul 2016 #21
Don't you love the double standard? backscatter712 Jul 2016 #36
.that^ 840high Jul 2016 #52
this ^^^^^^^^^^ AntiBank Jul 2016 #62
this ^^^^ that^^^^ delete_bush Jul 2016 #76
Bigoted shitlord awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #82
+1 Marr Jul 2016 #89
Yep romanic Jul 2016 #108
+1. NutmegYankee Jul 2016 #110
That's not what they are critical of treestar Jul 2016 #134
The most benign interpretation of what they moght want Ken Burch Jul 2016 #222
Some on DU feel compelled leftynyc Jul 2016 #135
+ another 1 nt riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #146
It has become pathological. sibelian Jul 2016 #151
"How come I can criticize white people but people call me a bigot when I criticize black people?" Chathamization Jul 2016 #157
"the difference between minority groups and majority groups." sibelian Jul 2016 #159
You honestly see no difference between someone saying "stupid white people" and someone saying Chathamization Jul 2016 #160
... sibelian Jul 2016 #164
So if someone said "I hate Christians" you'd treat them the same as somone who said "I hate Jews"? Chathamization Jul 2016 #169
In Saudi Arabia, they're the majority. See how they act? backscatter712 Jul 2016 #162
Also, I criticize the religion, and the repressive culture that has formed around the religion. backscatter712 Jul 2016 #163
If you're not criticizing the people, perhaps don't write "See how they act?" to show us how Chathamization Jul 2016 #170
Because those who want to label Islam as "regressive" only want that label put in place Ken Burch Jul 2016 #191
You're right about that... backscatter712 Jul 2016 #32
Well said! JNelson6563 Jul 2016 #63
Seriously? This is posted here almost daily. grossproffit Jul 2016 #126
Replace with Religion is a regressive force. NightWatcher Jul 2016 #22
I personally agree religion practiced as public policy is horrible idea kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #26
No sorry, there are other factors in play. Kurska Jul 2016 #30
You don't make one bit of sense kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #35
African slave trade was originally and finally a Muslim practice, they started it and Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #33
What is your point? kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #38
The post I responded to, you asked if Christianity was the root cause of slavery, I pointed Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #144
Saying "all religions are just as bad" is nothing but a trope Kurska Jul 2016 #27
I tend to agree TubbersUK Jul 2016 #102
Buddhism, Taoism and Hinduism sibelian Jul 2016 #153
Oh...just say it. bdwker Jul 2016 #183
Here's world opinion on conducting war and murdering civilians in the process: cpwm17 Jul 2016 #29
The OP is about Islam which is a school of thought that includes execution of LGBT. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #37
In 1950s only 4% Americans approved interracial marriage kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #39
The OP was about comparing the character Muslims to other groups. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #43
The OP is about Islam which is a school of thought that includes execution of LGBT. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #142
War is the ultimate evil. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #148
"This is not surprising considering the acute conflicts raging ericson00 Jul 2016 #40
How have all our wars against the Muslim world turned out? cpwm17 Jul 2016 #47
Those stats are scary and what has me concered. MariaThinks Jul 2016 #31
Even scarier is what muslims think of other religions in muslim majority countries MariaThinks Jul 2016 #34
Do you know the oldest Christian/Jewish communities are in muslim countries? kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #42
have you read the numbers? what is the acceptance of Christianity or Judaism in the MariaThinks Jul 2016 #50
It is recent problem because there is nothing inhiretently in Islam against Jews/Christians kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #51
Not only recent. There is a long history of persecutions of non-Muslims in Muslim lands. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #83
Except that Jews/Christians and that 2nd status thing riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #145
Yep. 840high Jul 2016 #53
You are so right! demosincebirth Jul 2016 #95
"Asked of Muslims only" I wonder what the results would be if we only asked Muslims about... ck4829 Jul 2016 #41
Most sensible answer kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #44
You can repeat that mantra all you want. Kurska Jul 2016 #45
Your whole arguement is based on the gulf countries kcjohn1 Jul 2016 #48
No, compare nations like Brazil/Bolivia/Vietnam/ to nations like Egypt/Iran/Algeria/Morocco. Kurska Jul 2016 #49
Go to an ultra-orthdox community is you want to see repression Gothmog Jul 2016 #181
No. sibelian Jul 2016 #150
It certainly can be. The biggest problem are people who are conservative/Fundamentalist types The Straight Story Jul 2016 #46
Becoming Liberal and progressive... True Dough Jul 2016 #96
Yes TubbersUK Jul 2016 #97
Straight, we have, at long last, found a subject on which we wholeheartedly agree. Great post. Squinch Jul 2016 #129
6 percent? PlanetaryOrbit Jul 2016 #55
This is bullshit jpak Jul 2016 #56
The top of which list? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #147
The more we attack them, the more they radicalize, the worse they get AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #57
Iraq gives us one more country that we can look down on as inferior to us. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #65
"invading their countries to steal oil" Where did that happen? EX500rider Jul 2016 #193
It happened in Iraq AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #206
Iraq sell their oil on the open market like every other oil producing country. EX500rider Jul 2016 #211
Am I supposed to believe AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #220
So you think we invaded the country for a few months of free oil? lol EX500rider Jul 2016 #232
Oil was still being stolen unmetered as of 2007 AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #235
"Oil was still being stolen unmetered as of 2007" Any reputable links for that? EX500rider Jul 2016 #237
Why are you so defensive of the Bush administrations Iraq invasion? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #240
The UK had very keen interest in it I'm ashamed to say TubbersUK Jul 2016 #238
Invade their countries, execute their leaders, and convert the people alain2112 Jul 2016 #58
who ever said that? Not everyone who criticizes any aspect of Islam is a warmonger! ericson00 Jul 2016 #66
+100 mr_liberal Jul 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Jul 2016 #61
That's why nuclear, solar and fracking are such good ideas Albertoo Jul 2016 #72
Bingo +1 Kurska Jul 2016 #74
the data you show is also a good case to ericson00 Jul 2016 #67
Islam has not yet modernized as many other religions have bluestateguy Jul 2016 #68
See the OP: most Muslims do not reject oppression of gays and free speech Albertoo Jul 2016 #70
Worse: Islam has been devised as an regressive force extremely difficult to reform Albertoo Jul 2016 #69
The numbers don't lie. Islam Is REGRESSIVE ram2008 Jul 2016 #79
And the causes go back hundreds of years Kurska Jul 2016 #80
Most Muslims just want to live in peace. Deal with it. Doodley Jul 2016 #87
Death penalty for gays, adulterers and blasphemers is peace? Albertoo Jul 2016 #90
So why are crime rates a small fraction in Muslim nations, compared to USA? Doodley Jul 2016 #85
Maybe because reporting crimes gets you in trouble? Albertoo Jul 2016 #88
Where's the moral compass in Christianity. Doodley Jul 2016 #91
we already know right wing christians suck and it's good we have separation of church and state JI7 Jul 2016 #93
I don't care. And "turn the other cheek" and "slay the infidels" are two very different ideologies Albertoo Jul 2016 #100
I truly don't know TubbersUK Jul 2016 #116
Islam is in need of a reformation towards the progressive end. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #86
But repeating the West's history would make them cprise Jul 2016 #94
You're talking politics, I am talking religion. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #101
Islam needs a Renaissance. DetlefK Jul 2016 #106
Islam already had its Renaissance, sadly Seeking Serenity Jul 2016 #173
True. But confrontations started by outsiders can't cause that. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #107
You have just won a BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #103
Truth hurts EOM Kurska Jul 2016 #111
Islamophobic Underground mwrguy Jul 2016 #112
Yeah, sorry for posting polls and actual hard data EOM Kurska Jul 2016 #122
All of the 'hat religions' are regressive. randome Jul 2016 #114
In case anyone is wondering, here's the reason the OP started this thread: Ken Burch Jul 2016 #115
its all a conspiracy!!! ericson00 Jul 2016 #119
Not a conspiracy...an agenda...a bigoted agenda... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #176
Ah, thought I'd seen this before somewhere fairly recently n/t TubbersUK Jul 2016 #132
DU loves extreme right wingers Democat Jul 2016 #117
well said; and its sad and makes progressives look like jokes ericson00 Jul 2016 #118
represents the thinking of too many on DU Angel Martin Jul 2016 #152
I just googled Dixon Diaz - the author of that cartoon TubbersUK Jul 2016 #158
Poignant ericson00 Jul 2016 #175
Orientalism is alive and well ck4829 Jul 2016 #120
Edward Said was anti-American and an apologist for terror ericson00 Jul 2016 #128
But Islam is our best weapon against Christianity here at home. ileus Jul 2016 #121
Please tell me ur being sarcastic; ericson00 Jul 2016 #127
You should be embarrassed by that leftynyc Jul 2016 #136
for a second, I thought he was being satirical; ericson00 Jul 2016 #140
Death penalty for leaving? It's like the East Germany of religions. modem77 Jul 2016 #125
I was looking at your maps Uponthegears Jul 2016 #137
no you couldn't because its not nearly as uniform red, and ericson00 Jul 2016 #138
You've managed to entirely miss the point Kurska Jul 2016 #139
Oh no, I've got the point entirely Uponthegears Jul 2016 #149
Right as a gay man there is no way I'm concerned about the plight of gay people in those countries Kurska Jul 2016 #224
If you keep building straw men Uponthegears Jul 2016 #233
It seems to me that Islam was largely ignored until 1979 when the Iranians no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #155
Nice to see straight up religious bigotry rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #156
Oh please. Islam is damned deserving of the criticism it gets. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2016 #165
Oh please rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #167
Ask yourself why leftynyc Jul 2016 #172
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me and others romanic Jul 2016 #166
Eleven Things Women in Saudi Arabia Can't Do: backscatter712 Jul 2016 #168
The parroting of right-wing tropes about Islam on DU is a curious thing YoungDemCA Jul 2016 #171
If the shoe fits... backscatter712 Jul 2016 #174
What an amusing but wrong post Gothmog Jul 2016 #178
Is there an 'Islamic underground' that tries to change these beliefs that gays should be killed? randome Jul 2016 #182
The ultra-orthodox has a tremendous amount of influence in Israel Gothmog Jul 2016 #185
The ultra-orthodoxy of just about every religion should be condemned. randome Jul 2016 #187
Only because the second orthodoxy does not as yet have the power to do so. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #190
Bleh. I did not know that. randome Jul 2016 #197
There actually are LGBTQ activists in a lot of Arab/Muslim countries. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #188
The abolition of a belief is a non-starter. randome Jul 2016 #208
Ok. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #219
It won't happen from without, I'm sure we agree on that. randome Jul 2016 #229
So sit on our hands and pretend it isn't happening Kurska Jul 2016 #239
No. Support those who work for secularism and tolerance in those countries. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #241
I really don't think you understand we're in agreement on some parts Kurska Jul 2016 #242
What makes me suspicious is that you've posted these inflammatory graphics Ken Burch Jul 2016 #243
Tribalism predates any religion Kurska Jul 2016 #244
Thank you for that post. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #189
Except the overwhelming support for ultra-orthodox like positions in the Muslim world. Kurska Jul 2016 #218
But Kurska, you could replace Islam with most other religions and the statement would still be true KamaAina Jul 2016 #192
All too true - sadly. TubbersUK Jul 2016 #194
Anyone who does not call out all the religions that push bigotry is parroting the right wing. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #196
Yes, single out the bigots. Absolutely. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #201
Because it is true of most religions, but saying it of Islam is offensive here. Kurska Jul 2016 #216
Harping on Islam exclusively is offensive. KamaAina Jul 2016 #234
How bout not criticizng Islam at all, while one attacks ever other organized religion. Kurska Jul 2016 #236
Not surprisingly, the OP is written by a supporter of oppression and aggressive wars against Muslims cpwm17 Jul 2016 #198
you've just demonstrated one of the sad reasons too many ericson00 Jul 2016 #200
Not "hatred of Israel"...justified anger at the oppression of Palestinians. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #202
why does no other religious group around the world take such extreme offense ericson00 Jul 2016 #207
Support for atrocities is not a liberal value. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #203
Please do not attempt to introduce reality into this thread. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #205
1) How many nuclear devices have been used by a majority Muslim country? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #204
who started the slave trade in Africa? Which country was the last to formally abolish slavery? ericson00 Jul 2016 #209
I am waiting for the answers to my questions. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #212
Does any of that matter to people stoned to death for loving the 'wrong' person? randome Jul 2016 #210
Which does not erase what is said here. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #215
If a woman in a western country wants to walk away from a religion or a marriage, she can. randome Jul 2016 #217
Unless the woman is beaten or killed in the attempt. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #221
I agree, religion is not the problem. Culture is. Killing for minor offenses is codified in law. randome Jul 2016 #227
100% agreed. Well, 99%. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #228
It's ALWAYS more complicated than at first glance, isn't it? randome Jul 2016 #230
I Thought The Era of Evangalizing the Globe On the Road Jul 2016 #213
As a rule, I have a great dislike philosophically for all of the Abrahamic religions. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #214
Thank you for that post. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #231
I'm gonna guess you don't know a majority of Muslims in the world and so struggle4progress Jul 2016 #223
Who does? That is why opinion polling is useful. Kurska Jul 2016 #225
I'm gonna guess you don't know a majority of Republicans in the world and so Democat Jul 2016 #245
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