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Being confronted by armed strangers in what should be a secure place... [View all] mia Jul 2016 OP
You've hit on our only real hope in this capitalist utopia, Mia. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #1
The pocketbook counts more than anything mia Jul 2016 #10
Some stores ask patrons to not display their weapons: tblue37 Jul 2016 #77
Thanks for the information. mia Jul 2016 #133
may you have better luck than I did. when I told a local business owner that I would no longer niyad Jul 2016 #136
Damn! But...cheer up. Because, what if 75% of his customers PatrickforO Jul 2016 #142
alas, this is an open carry state that recalled two state senators for the merest hint niyad Jul 2016 #149
everyone shoud have a bunch... chillfactor Jul 2016 #2
Or leave them in your abandoned cart. pamela Jul 2016 #12
The manager at my grocery store FuzzyRabbit Jul 2016 #14
John Crawford would like to know more. N/t beevul Aug 2016 #151
P.S. chillfactor Jul 2016 #3
Thank you. Feel free to share this far and wide. mia Jul 2016 #5
That's an interesting tactic. ZombieHorde Jul 2016 #4
Hopeful that this will come to be. mia Jul 2016 #6
I don't need it in my city. The penalty for open carry is often death. hunter Jul 2016 #7
hello Skittles Jul 2016 #11
oh there's plenty of danger in rural areas IronLionZion Jul 2016 #13
Those "crazed drug addicts" are relatives and neighbors... hunter Jul 2016 #94
! mia Jul 2016 #134
Why is it that the biggest open carry assholes only do it in places where there's no danger at all? Iggo Jul 2016 #38
My son watched one of his friends murdered dumbcat Jul 2016 #67
The RW scumnuts think we are therefore afraid to look at a gun. 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #8
Empathy. mia Jul 2016 #135
Perfect for restaurants, just as the food arrives at the table. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #9
That's theft... TipTok Jul 2016 #16
And it's exactly what these gun-toting gun-nuts deserve. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #17
No Sam here... TipTok Jul 2016 #18
It's not theft if I don't eat it. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #19
Give it a go and see what happens... TipTok Jul 2016 #20
Let us know how it goes when you use them Lonusca Jul 2016 #21
Would you actually pay for a meal if you were forced to eat it somewhere where you felt threatened? StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #24
So a KKK member can dine and dash on his meal... TipTok Jul 2016 #31
So according to your analogy, skin is just as threatening as a gun. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #131
I know you do... TipTok Jul 2016 #146
That's a TERRIBLE analogy! You should be ashamed of yourself!!! adigal Jul 2016 #139
In the other guy's mind... TipTok Jul 2016 #147
. Old Crow Jul 2016 #141
Bullshit...... Logical Jul 2016 #40
Again... Basic understanding of law... TipTok Jul 2016 #42
Your expertise is greatly valuable to us Orrex Jul 2016 #45
Did you pay for the food that you ordered? TipTok Jul 2016 #46
The statute, please. Orrex Jul 2016 #50
You are asking for the specific statute that says ordering services and refusing to pay for them... TipTok Jul 2016 #53
Yes. Why can't you provide it? Orrex Jul 2016 #54
You mean like Texas Penal Code § 31.04. Theft of Service ? X_Digger Jul 2016 #60
Again... TipTok Jul 2016 #66
No, obviously. Orrex Jul 2016 #68
How will they know my intent? Logical Jul 2016 #47
What will you say when the police ask you why you left? TipTok Jul 2016 #51
You didn't answer the question Orrex Jul 2016 #55
I saw a gun, made me nervous, so i left, too many mass shootings lately and.... Logical Jul 2016 #62
Nice post, criminal Orrex Jul 2016 #64
He should say 'ok' and give you your ticket... TipTok Jul 2016 #65
A ticket for what? Orrex Jul 2016 #69
General response, with quote of actual Theft/Services law...it would be a misdemeanor if... jmg257 Jul 2016 #83
Umm, read the last sentence of your quote.. X_Digger Jul 2016 #87
Understood. As I said - expect to be arrested if a complaint is filed. jmg257 Jul 2016 #88
You gave more info in one post that the other DUer gave in 20 Orrex Jul 2016 #91
No worries - glad I could help! :) jmg257 Jul 2016 #92
You mean like these? X_Digger Jul 2016 #95
How would you gauge their intent? Pretty high, no? jmg257 Jul 2016 #98
Intent is presumed when you 'abscond' without paying. X_Digger Jul 2016 #99
Understood, so because your intent is presumed, are you guilty of Theft/Services jmg257 Jul 2016 #101
What a silly statement. If you intended to pay, but had no money, does that mean you're not guilty? X_Digger Jul 2016 #102
HUH? If you ordered when you had no money, then you had intent...you dash - you are guilty. jmg257 Jul 2016 #106
Yeah, considering that's the whole gist of this thread (leaving a card explaining why you left..) X_Digger Jul 2016 #107
Depends on your state... TipTok Jul 2016 #121
Great. Now answer the rest of the question. Orrex Jul 2016 #123
Sure it is. Stryder Jul 2016 #132
Because you weren't charged, it isn't a crime?? That's not.. logical. n/t X_Digger Jul 2016 #63
True. Like jaywalking and speeding. Logical Jul 2016 #70
Therefore neither is a crime?? Errr... X_Digger Jul 2016 #71
When did i say that? I know guns are your deal, but some people are scared of them...... Logical Jul 2016 #72
Getting away with a crime makes it okay, then? Hrmm. That's.. odd. n/t X_Digger Jul 2016 #73
Not a crime to not pay for a meal when you are too nervous to eat it.... Logical Jul 2016 #75
Yes, it's called theft of service. If you're upset / nervous, pay and leave. X_Digger Jul 2016 #76
More bullshit..... Logical Jul 2016 #78
It's a class C misdemeanor in Texas (for less than $100). I cited the statute upthread. X_Digger Jul 2016 #79
Nope, contract debt, lol! Logical Jul 2016 #80
Here's the statute.. again.. X_Digger Jul 2016 #81
If the intent from the beginning was not to pay! Wow, are you really not understanding.... Logical Jul 2016 #82
Read more.. X_Digger Jul 2016 #84
Yeah right rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #74
Also fun to mention... TipTok Jul 2016 #122
Yeah rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #124
Was he a thief also? TipTok Jul 2016 #125
Your volume is at 11 dude rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #126
I don't like thieves and I don't like people who make other people pay for their personal problems.. TipTok Jul 2016 #127
You're leaving before you dine, so it isn't exactly dine and ditch. Lancero Jul 2016 #29
Ethically it is the same as stealing... TipTok Jul 2016 #30
Self preservation supersedes that ethical dilemma. I'm not trying to dig out my card when... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #32
That is what we call rationalization... TipTok Jul 2016 #35
we agree its rationalization, its a good one and fitting for the situation at hand... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #37
Actually that's exactly what they are trying to do... TipTok Jul 2016 #39
Lol, so the police will tell you that you have no right to be scared of guns? I do not.... Logical Jul 2016 #41
You have every right to be afraid of guns... TipTok Jul 2016 #44
False dichotomy, one can remove themselves from danger and reconcile a bill later uponit7771 Jul 2016 #61
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #59
"You can justify just about anything with it." Orrex Jul 2016 #52
Ethically? Yes. Morally? No. Exilednight Jul 2016 #34
I find it interesting sarisataka Jul 2016 #23
HUUUGE assumptions here. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #25
No assumption sarisataka Jul 2016 #27
OK leaving when you see the gun treestar Jul 2016 #48
Seen it quite a few times Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #85
If the food had been prepared and delivered, would you later pay for it? Marengo Jul 2016 #96
I would take great pleasure in not paying for it and in making it very clear why it's not ok. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #130
Then I hope you would get nailed for theft. Marengo Jul 2016 #143
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #145
No BlueSpot Jul 2016 #144
Bye... TipTok Jul 2016 #15
Good night... mia Jul 2016 #137
Seeing vs confronted -- not the same thing. ManiacJoe Jul 2016 #22
Some people are entirely comfortable eating their meals surrounded by killing devices StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #26
Depending on where you live Abq_Sarah Jul 2016 #28
Confronted? LOL ileus Jul 2016 #33
These folks would be the first ones to use lethal force as police officers... TipTok Jul 2016 #36
Thats a sobering thing to consider. beevul Jul 2016 #57
Yep, so true Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #86
Makes one aware they treestar Jul 2016 #49
You do know it isn't a "secure place" without security, no? pipoman Jul 2016 #43
Security is shaken when you see openly armed people. mia Jul 2016 #140
No...most people know that anyone set on shooting up the place isn't pipoman Jul 2016 #148
I'd rather open carry so I know who has what (nt) bigwillq Jul 2016 #56
Good point. mia Jul 2016 #138
When I moved to Arizona, I did not know it was an open carry state ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #58
Your dad was carrying concealed in a bar? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #100
There may have been an exception for peace officers; however, he really should have LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #104
I just find it funny... beevul Jul 2016 #105
A couple of things ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #110
Was the person who was open carrying drinking? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #112
Yes. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #114
And nobody called the cops? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #115
Nope. But, as I wrote further ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #116
He was a cop, at the time ... he carried everywhere he went. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #108
Understood, but he had a responsibility to be aware of local law, especially if he intended LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #111
True, but in the defense of Dear Old Dad ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #113
Strange that you didn't say that at the start (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #117
I'm accused of making everything I write about, about race ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #118
Posted this one before: years ago, I managed a convenice store in Mesa LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #89
Just curious UnFettered Jul 2016 #90
It is ALWAYS done to get a rise out of people. Paladin Jul 2016 #93
Spoken like someone whos never travelled the states significantly. beevul Jul 2016 #103
I would not say it's common in my area, but I do see it fairly often. No one seems to pay any mind. Marengo Jul 2016 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #109
There's no way to tell a good guy with a gun from a bad guy with a gun. Vinca Jul 2016 #119
I went to a favorite spot in Jamaica about three hours ago malaise Jul 2016 #120
I wish. raven mad Jul 2016 #128
And what happens if you can not see the firearm? oneshooter Jul 2016 #129
I know the feeling. Matt_R Jul 2016 #150
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