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riderinthestorm

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64. You know, I've told my story on DU several times and why I take this position

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:12 PM

Jun 2012

You won't like it one bit if I recount it here again so I won't since anecdotes aren't "peer reviewed science", but suffice it to say I know whereof I speak.

Its not about mind expansion. Its not about threatening the PTB and its absolutely not about working or shopping. Its about an obviously destructive habit that wrecks a life. Clearly you haven't met anybody whose a loser stoner. I get it. You exist in some world which doesn't include those people.

I do.

The vast majority of MJ users have no problems but some do. That's a fact I know personally. I'm not advocating for the war on drugs fwiw. I've been upfront that criminalizing drug use is destructive and counter-productive. I welcome the news that someone in the Obama cabinet is finally saying it out loud. My husband's a Stage IV, Grade IV lymphoma cancer patient so I know the value of MJ for medicinal purposes intimately.

I KNOW both sides of this fence.

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Great Non-Medical Reasons To Legalize Weed [View all] kpete Jun 2012 OP

Great reason to NOT smoke weed even if legal? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #1

FrodosPet kpete Jun 2012 #2

Unfortunately not FrodosPet Jun 2012 #4

Why would anyone take advice from someone who describes *himself* as "stuck in a rut"? Romulox Jun 2012 #6

Because they might want to avoid ending up like me? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #8

Logic problem: I have *already* avoided ending up like you. Romulox Jun 2012 #10

Congratulations! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #12

You miss my point. Moobs come from poor diet and lack of exercise. Now that you're "clean", Romulox Jun 2012 #17

Yes. There are plenty of people who use marijuana responsibly. phleshdef Jun 2012 #29

I smoked for 42 years while holding down a job madokie Jun 2012 #32

Perhaps if you had been able to by pot at reasonable prices you wouldn't have blown all your money. Ganja Ninja Jun 2012 #50

Maybe this will help lame54 Jun 2012 #22

Where do these authoritarians come from, and why are they attracted to DU??? Romulox Jun 2012 #3

I come from looking at an eviction notice FrodosPet Jun 2012 #5

Well, my mortgage is paid. Perhaps there's *something else* going on here. Romulox Jun 2012 #7

OK. Sorry. YOU can maintain, so EVERYONE can maintain! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #9

Just like *you* can't, so you want to punish everyone else. Romulox Jun 2012 #11

FrodosPet kpete Jun 2012 #13

Thank you. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #15

I'm convinced there are folks who just can't do it, like alcoholics riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #16

Vicodin is an opiate--narcotic opioid alkaloids found as natural products in the opium poppy plant Romulox Jun 2012 #18

This is true. You aren't physically addicted. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #19

Marijuana doesn't give you ESP. You talk about what is on *your* mind; you don't know me. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #23

That's fine. I've just met too many people whose habit has consumed their life riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #20

Facts matter. Anybody who lectures on this subject needs to understand the basics. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #24

You seem to be the only one lecturing nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #27

You compared pot smokers to "those who get hooked on Vicodin." It's a basic misunderstanding Romulox Jun 2012 #28

I was making a comparison to other legal substances riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #30

Both the substances you cited have been proven to be physically addictive. Marijuana has not. Romulox Jun 2012 #31

If you look at my posts, I've never once said its addictive riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #33

Your debate, it would seem, is with the peer-reviewed science of the matter. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #34

Nope. Its not. Any habit that's fucking up your life should be stopped riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #36

I think one of the main reasons pot is illegal is that it may expand one's vision of a life well Romulox Jun 2012 #39

You know, I've told my story on DU several times and why I take this position riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #64

Peace and blessings to your husband FrodosPet Jun 2012 #65

Without some kind of *empirical fact* to back it up, it's impossible to put anecdotes like yours in Romulox Jun 2012 #67

Yes, facts DO matter! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #37

Your over-riding thesis seems to be that *your* life is a mess. We can't help you here. Romulox Jun 2012 #40

I sincerely hope my series of responses to you wasn't cruel. However, I will NOT enable "magical Romulox Jun 2012 #68

Well, I am an agnostic non-supernaturalist, so magic is not a thing for me. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #70

"Magical thinking" refers not to religion, but to the cognitive crutches Romulox Jun 2012 #71

Once upon a time, I could run for MILES FrodosPet Jun 2012 #73

so don't smoke if it affects you that way, good grief shanti Jun 2012 #44

Normal? FrodosPet Jun 2012 #75

booze is legal, should we ban it because some people are drunks? dionysus Jun 2012 #47

Of course not. FrodosPet Jun 2012 #57

stop blaming the pot Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2012 #26

So you realize it's yourself that's the problem and not the pot? EOTE Jun 2012 #72

I'm sorry Frodospet. My nephew could be your twin riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #14

some people just have shanti Jun 2012 #45

For some people though, weed is the problem thing. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #46

The point is if weed did not exist, it would be alcohol jeff47 Jun 2012 #51

I've never been to AA. Is it massive guilt tripping? riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #55

It's all about how you are utterly powerless jeff47 Jun 2012 #58

booze does (more like, can do) the same thing... of course SOME people dionysus Jun 2012 #48

Agreed on all points. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #52

Funny thing, that. I smoked weed all through college and wound up a veterinarian with my own kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #35

Thats's EXACTLY what I am doing FrodosPet Jun 2012 #43

you seem to be conflating your issue with other people... dionysus Jun 2012 #49

OK, I surrender! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #60

I have reason to wonder about the actual truth of your situation. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #59

You caught me! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #61

good luck ... hope you can get it under control ThomThom Jun 2012 #77

Thank you! FrodosPet Jun 2012 #78

I am glad you were able to increase your happiness and better yourself. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #38

I haven't YET FrodosPet Jun 2012 #62

Many people can't or shouldn't use and that can be applied to anything, You're not the first Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #41

Both FrodosPet Jun 2012 #63

I am sorry to hear it has been a burden for you. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #42

tell it to michael phelps.. frylock Jun 2012 #54

My daughter's friend revolution breeze Jun 2012 #56

Must every one of these conversations devolve into statistical outliers? RadiationTherapy Jun 2012 #21

Or some self-righteous self-help session, for that matter... nt Romulox Jun 2012 #25

I recced this thread old friend. Cannabis is unique-worthy of distinction. bobthedrummer Jun 2012 #53

I grow my own sorefeet Jun 2012 #66

"To call sensi a 'drug' is very absurd. It should be known as a natural herb..." Romulox Jun 2012 #69

what happened to all the replies?? shanti Jun 2012 #74

Motivation mick063 Jun 2012 #76