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JustAnotherGen

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48. Good, bad, indifferent

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:54 AM

Jul 2016

It was the high point of the night. It's today's news cycle. I get up between 3:30 and 4:00 AM and this is what is being discussed in the media. Then I look on DU and it looks like the community was just ahead of the curve.

I relate to our First Lady in many ways. She's a kind person and a person of integrity who has been torn down and demeaned. Even those on the left who try to be fair have turned a cheek.

This was bound to happen. Not just at DU - but everywhere that sees a double standard. She's not special and I'm of the mindset that turn about when warranted is fair play.

Words are important. Own them. She said those words and she needs to be forced to own them. No special treatment for the candidate's spouse.

They won't be kind to Bill who wouldn't be so stupid as to plagiarize an Ann Romney or Cindy McCain or Laura Bush speech.

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I see it's dump on the wife tonight. [View all] elleng Jul 2016 OP

She put herself out there and apparently plagiarized part of her speech. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #1

I don't blame her as much as Trump; he's probably behind it. sarae Jul 2016 #2

It isn't very hard to make that family look stupid is it? The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #3

she says she wrote her speech...except for the bits swiped from michelle obama nt msongs Jul 2016 #4

DU has a GD thread titled, "She speaks better than the Donald!" pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #7

I feel sorry for Scott Baio underpants Jul 2016 #109

She plagiarized her speech. That shouldn't be criticized? NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #6

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #14

oooh ! Nasty ! (but accurate) Angel Martin Jul 2016 #21

Apparently not.. leave trump's wife alone! Cha Jul 2016 #42

Plagiarism in a national speech is a MASSIVE story MohRokTah Jul 2016 #8

Exactly Moh.. NYDN tomorrow.. Cha Jul 2016 #43

good one enid602 Jul 2016 #55

Yes, having to copy best lines from a Democrat's Hortensis Jul 2016 #95

Rubio must be behind the scenes somewhere... Blanks Jul 2016 #102

Hmm, yes. Doubt Rand Paul. He was a verrry slow learner Hortensis Jul 2016 #105

I'd forgotten about Rand Paul... Blanks Jul 2016 #110

Plagiarism in defense of liberty is no vice; composition in defense of originality is no virtue Bucky Jul 2016 #118

She's the one who gave the speech Nevernose Jul 2016 #9

Didn't get enough out of singing her praises over at JPR? Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #10

Right! :) Hortensis Jul 2016 #96

Right.. and neither is lying when she said she "..wrote it with as little help as possible".. Cha Jul 2016 #98

To be fair... Blanks Jul 2016 #107

Actually, my intention of watching former First Ladies would be to note what they said BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #159

She could have paraphrased it... Blanks Jul 2016 #161

This is a real head scratcher.... Peregrine Took Jul 2016 #11

They stole a speech from a woman they've dumped on for eight years ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #12

^THIS^ sarae Jul 2016 #26

Yup, 100% agree... Moostache Jul 2016 #31

Your subject line should, IMO, be all in caps, Ilsa Jul 2016 #58

Right on. sarcasmo Jul 2016 #117

Thank You. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2016 #156

By mid morning, what DU says about her Wednesdays Jul 2016 #13

I'm not dumping on her... MiniMe Jul 2016 #15

Don't you post on a website that uses the c-word to describe HRC? msanthrope Jul 2016 #16

That site is pro-Trump, too. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #25

Tertiary syphilis support group.....not a website. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #33

The hypocrisy from piners astounding. joshcryer Jul 2016 #39

Nothing the Pinebaggerz say surprises me anymore.. zappaman Jul 2016 #51

It thrives on toxicity. joshcryer Jul 2016 #56

Thank you. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2016 #69

The level of denial it takes......to post on said website and then come here to msanthrope Jul 2016 #70

Does she really think that Trump's wife should not be held accountable for plagiarism? greatauntoftriplets Jul 2016 #72

Misanthrope= elleng Jul 2016 #133

Your brilliant comeback misspelled my username. msanthrope Jul 2016 #139

SO SORRY, MS. elleng Jul 2016 #140

Conflating a tertiary syphilis support group with a SCOTUS decision is kinda msanthrope Jul 2016 #142

No kidding, and that's not the only name they call her Maven Jul 2016 #84

Well we dump on him so much, why does it bother you? Rex Jul 2016 #17

No its dump on the Plagiarizer brettdale Jul 2016 #18

She is an adult senseandsensibility Jul 2016 #19

Did you accidentally post this on DU instead of the other "progressive" site cosmicone Jul 2016 #20

Note my observation above.....that wonderfully progressive site that uses the c-word msanthrope Jul 2016 #22

That's the one !! n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #24

Maybe too many tabs open at once. msanthrope Jul 2016 #27

and do get banned for using it .... n/t cosmicone Jul 2016 #28

NYC_SKP got banned for implying it. joshcryer Jul 2016 #41

And now he is a moderator on the other "progressive" site cosmicone Jul 2016 #81

You should really consider getting off your high horse. Vattel Jul 2016 #154

Let me guess: might you be justifying your own participation in the site that celebrates sexist Squinch Jul 2016 #157

Lol, now the site supposedly "celebrates sexist and racist slurs." Typical smearing. Vattel Jul 2016 #162

Lol, not smearing. Do go look. They celebrate racist and sexist slurs. Squinch Jul 2016 #163

I appreciate your tacit admission that the use of the c-word at the other site is wrong. msanthrope Jul 2016 #158

Speaking of... joshcryer Jul 2016 #40

good grief! Cha Jul 2016 #92

LOL, I saw that ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #100

Pinebaggerz love them some Trump! zappaman Jul 2016 #114

+1 tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #65

Yes, it is. She plagiarized Michelle's speech. ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #23

For plagiarism? She's fair game. Warpy Jul 2016 #29

He'll ya it is GusBob Jul 2016 #30

She married a toilet. What do you expect. Lint Head Jul 2016 #32

So did Laura Bush, but I always gave her props Warpy Jul 2016 #34

And she didn't have to run a stop sign because she was Lint Head Jul 2016 #35

Melania should have known better, but if Michelle Obama would have done this Lady_Chat Jul 2016 #36

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #38

This is exactly correct Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #76

+1000 Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #93

Team TP will come along and wipe it all off.... jus sayin uponit7771 Jul 2016 #37

No--it's "Call out the plagiarist." MADem Jul 2016 #44

she gets a pass? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #45

�I read once over it and that�s all. Because I wrote it and with [as] little help as possible.� Cha Jul 2016 #46

Oh good Lord bluestateguy Jul 2016 #47

Good, bad, indifferent JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #48

thank you for that, Gen.. well said. Not only were FL Michelle's words plagiarized Cha Jul 2016 #52

They sure the hell never cut Hillary Clinton any slack when she was the spouse. deurbano Jul 2016 #106

Good point JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #112

Not dump...hold feet to the fire. Scurrilous Jul 2016 #49

Whoosh! zappaman Jul 2016 #50

She gets a free pass because why lapfog_1 Jul 2016 #53

A speaker at a political event is not just a "wife" Democat Jul 2016 #54

Leave Trump alone!!!!... SidDithers Jul 2016 #57

Nice driveby Orrex Jul 2016 #59

Huh? mindfulNJ Jul 2016 #60

Not when she steals somebody elses words. book_worm Jul 2016 #61

She has only herself to blame for the pickle she now finds herself in. avebury Jul 2016 #62

Her speech should be criticized bigwillq Jul 2016 #63

Did you go to bed before the revelation? tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #64

Pinebagger says what? nt Codeine Jul 2016 #66

Mrs. Dumb & Mr. Dumber are adults, put themselves out there and lie/plagiarize! Her Sister Jul 2016 #67

I have to respectfully disagree with you, Elleng. Koinos Jul 2016 #68

Very well said Koinos JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #91

Agree. Fwiw, Joe Scarborough said 3 sources told Hortensis Jul 2016 #99

You're defending plagiarism? greatauntoftriplets Jul 2016 #71

Trump's wife plagarized Michele Obama's 2008 speech Gothmog Jul 2016 #73

This didn't work out like you intended mythology Jul 2016 #74

I see you're on the Manafort team. pnwmom Jul 2016 #75

She put herself forward as an advocate. Fair game. Adrahil Jul 2016 #77

Nice..ignore plagiarism..Ignore her other deceptions... beachbumbob Jul 2016 #78

LOL!!! You are a riot! Maybe you should invite Mrs. Trump, Donald and Jill Stein over to Squinch Jul 2016 #79

If Michelle Obama had plagiarized Nancy Reagan rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #80

If the wife plagiarizes a political speech at the CONVENTION, then yeah, fair game. wildeyed Jul 2016 #82

she is an active supporter of her husband who is a complete piece of fucking shit snooper2 Jul 2016 #83

I think you have your answer. n/t dumbcat Jul 2016 #85

Why in heaven's name did they plagiarize from Michelle Obama's speech? Koinos Jul 2016 #86

I'm genuinely curious. kcr Jul 2016 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Jul 2016 #88

your concern is duly noted, nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #89

Well if you use your family as political props, Mendocino Jul 2016 #90

I concur, it is very unseemly. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #94

She should be given her full due. bluedigger Jul 2016 #97

She gets on the stage at a GOP convention, she's fair game CanonRay Jul 2016 #101

Looking forward to your spirited defense of Bill during the DNC Rose Siding Jul 2016 #103

Please don't hold your breath. zappaman Jul 2016 #108

Really? SHE did this. No one else. Sigh... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #104

Oh I see, found your thread at the other site, Melania is just DREAMY right ROFLMAO snooper2 Jul 2016 #111

Busted! Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #115

I don't support Trump, so I guess I'm not a "Progressive" like those zappaman Jul 2016 #116

What? Is there a spot on the calendar for let the plagiarist plagiarize night? ck4829 Jul 2016 #113

She plagiarized on live TV. She's an adult, should know better. backscatter712 Jul 2016 #119

I don't even get why you think any political speaker is above criticism. Plus this one Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #120

What's the problem? leftynyc Jul 2016 #121

She gave a political speech at a political convention. Iggo Jul 2016 #122

It's not just about dumping on the wife. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #123

No, it's "Rightfully criticize the plagiarizer for such a dishonest speech she didn't even write... Hong Kong Cavalier Jul 2016 #124

Thanks Obama! tenderfoot Jul 2016 #125

Sad to see an O'Malley supporter use a Strawman argument to prop up Trump emulatorloo Jul 2016 #126

Many are more a Hillary hater than an O'Malley supporter. zappaman Jul 2016 #127

Hit and run post... I wonder where the op ran off to? taught_me_patience Jul 2016 #128

I see some crap comments here. elleng Jul 2016 #129

You made up stuff about DUers and then ran off. Rex Jul 2016 #131

I made NOTHING up, elleng Jul 2016 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Jul 2016 #137

Any comment? JaneyVee Jul 2016 #138

I find it amusing that you refer to her as "Mrs. Tramp" but are pissed at DUers for criticizing her tenderfoot Jul 2016 #145

Well it is all about feeling superior to usernames on a forum in cyberspace. Rex Jul 2016 #152

So we can't criticize a plagiarizer putting herself out there to elect a bloated gas bag Downtown Hound Jul 2016 #130

I posted well before the plagirism was apparent, elleng Jul 2016 #132

I respect you for leaving the post up. lpbk2713 Jul 2016 #134

Thanks, lpbk2713. elleng Jul 2016 #136

DU finds your support of the republican nominee's wife Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #164

If, in fact, DU 'thinks' I 'support' tramp's wife, elleng Jul 2016 #165

Again, I love how you refer to her as "Tramp" then scold others for not "understanding her/reasons" tenderfoot Jul 2016 #167

I refer, consistently, to her husband as Tramp, elleng Jul 2016 #168

I see it's dump on the wife hour for you. tenderfoot Jul 2016 #169

Some others would have at least edited it, especially after it was pointed out in this thread and still_one Jul 2016 #150

I sometimes wonder about those who participate in sites that allow vulgarities against still_one Jul 2016 #149

It makes no difference Downtown Hound Jul 2016 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Jul 2016 #160

She's a high profile public figure in a presidential campaign. Crunchy Frog Jul 2016 #141

Strange how Melania gets more positive press by some here than Hillary. glennward Jul 2016 #143

The candidate's "wife", as you call it, is running for First Lady, and is part of her husband's still_one Jul 2016 #144

I actually thought it was a very good speech, though at the time I did not know that it was madinmaryland Jul 2016 #146

Ditto, elleng Jul 2016 #147

On the other hand, anyone who went after Ghoulianni would have sounded great. madinmaryland Jul 2016 #148

sorry but... chillfactor Jul 2016 #151

She made a speech at the RNC on national television giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author frankieallen Jul 2016 #166