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11. Manslaughter

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:48 AM

Jun 2012

They wanted their jollies by trashing him. If he dies, things get complicated. A claim of "resisting arrest" doesn't wash if the man in custody dies, especially with a substantial number of cops watching over him. But it would be difficult to prove any kind of prior intent.

Maryland is a diverse state, with some parts very modern and sophisticated, but many parts rural with a lot of ignorant rednecks. There haven't been many (any?) well publicized incidents of people dying in Maryland from police brutality, so if any has gone on, it has been under the radar of national publicity. No longer. Their governor is a level-headed Democrat, and I'm confident he'll not let this slide.

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Architect In Diabetic Shock Beaten By Officers, Pepper Sprayed, and Repeatedly Tasered Before Dying [View all] AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 OP

Could a judge today say this is a open and shut case of MindMover Jun 2012 #1

Or Murder? Manslaughter? Hooliganism? OMG, that poor man. freshwest Jun 2012 #6

Manslaughter DFW Jun 2012 #11

Thanks for the information, DFW. The fartherest north I've been on the East Coast is D.C. freshwest Jun 2012 #13

The death toll from police Taser use in Maryland plus other locations can be found at a web site AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #12

More information re your question about Maryland: AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #27

Without reading any further, my guess is that Carl Johnson was a black man? nt nanabugg Jun 2012 #89

Shameful, and blatantly criminal in any sane society. I'd be interested to see how the various Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #2

Painting with a very wide paint brush aren't you? rustydog Jun 2012 #17

Please do not compare killer cops to people with intellectual disabilities KamaAina Jun 2012 #20

Possibly, but the actions of the majority do. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #26

and if your friends turn a blind eye to such abuses.. frylock Jun 2012 #31

BS. Every LEO I've known has a mind set that everyone they arrest is a criminal and most people 1monster Jun 2012 #70

Keep that happy positive attitude if (God forbid) someone enters your workplace rustydog Jun 2012 #91

Even bad cops can do their jobs correctly sometimes... 1monster Jun 2012 #92

That's what I thought. "Heroes" indeed. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #73

Rustydog - why don't you and your good cops clean your house? Why do you cover for jerks? xtraxritical Jun 2012 #81

Because, apparently it is easier to blame everyone than hold the bad cops accountable. rustydog Jun 2012 #90

And still no answer... Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #93

The Only "Ignorance Bordering On Stupidity" Being Shown Here, Sir, You Are Displaying In Your Posts The Magistrate Jun 2012 #94

More teachers and firefighters? Certainly! Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #3

More cops can actually mean less police brutality KamaAina Jun 2012 #21

Tell that to this guy, it sounds like 52 people responded hughee99 Jun 2012 #35

I don't think it works that way. Mariana Jun 2012 #56

I think it's that overworked cops get stressed out KamaAina Jun 2012 #58

Having medical issues seems to be a criminal offense.. midnight Jun 2012 #4

Enforcing the Republican Health Plan ArcticFox Jun 2012 #5

I am in no way defending the officer's actions but diabetic conditions can mirror rustydog Jun 2012 #16

Lose their Jobs, Hell, Sir: Rot In Jail For Twenty Years, Minimum The Magistrate Jun 2012 #32

If they do any time at all it will be about three years UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #87

these cops should lose their freedom and quite possibly their lives.. frylock Jun 2012 #33

Why can't they use a net for restraint in these situations? Too sane? They're just chickens? xtraxritical Jun 2012 #82

Support the troops... orwell Jun 2012 #7

Horrifying. mzmolly Jun 2012 #8

The thing that bothers but also fascinates me is that here, as with coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #9

Yeah, that was my first reaction. raouldukelives Jun 2012 #67

There should be penalties for mzmolly Jun 2012 #69

oops gaspee Jun 2012 #10

Death by cop seems to be a rapidly increasing hifiguy Jun 2012 #14

and don't forget shanti Jun 2012 #24

Don't forget that the Abu Ghraib folks were COs Alcibiades Jun 2012 #86

kick for justice Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #15

KICK Phhhtttt Jun 2012 #18

I couldn't deduce from the news stories--do we know Mr. Johnson's race? librechik Jun 2012 #19

Much as I can believe this GCP Jun 2012 #22

You should try a search engine. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #37

Only one of two stories reported by the MSM. The other was reported by WBAL Radio. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #52

"Baltimore County police say Johnson got into a rumble with officers" hedgehog Jun 2012 #23

I can't find a picture of Carl D'Andre Johnson, but I'll wager dollars to Krispy Kremes KamaAina Jun 2012 #25

Kick Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #28

The cops have become the bandits and psychopaths we asked them to protect us from. Zalatix Jun 2012 #29

FUCK THA POLICE frylock Jun 2012 #30

Wow, what an amazing coincidence the few bad apples were the only ones to show up at the scene. ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #34

GREAT OBSERVATION, ZombieHorde! Th1onein Jun 2012 #85

Other side of story SecurityManager Jun 2012 #36

Well, that's different. Clearly a death sentence, hifiguy Jun 2012 #38

According to the news report, he sent 3 cops to the hospital Cowpunk Jun 2012 #60

The officers' account would have more credibility if they would release their videos. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #62

I am quite aware that cops often lie to cover their asses. Cowpunk Jun 2012 #95

You are wrong in saying that no one knows anything about the case. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #96

The fact that your list is full of generalities instead of specifics pretty much proves my point. Cowpunk Jun 2012 #97

False equivalency. The fact that you don't know everything doesn't mean that you don't know anything AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #98

The Usual Lies Murderers Tell, Sir: Nothing Worth Paying Attention To The Magistrate Jun 2012 #39

Even if true, at some point they needed to follow the manufacturer's guidelines and not AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #51

Are you joking? Not a damn thing's changed. redqueen Jun 2012 #76

O I forgot cops hated here SecurityManager Jun 2012 #40

People Who Murder Under Color Of Authority, Sir, Are Widely Disliked, And Damned Well Ought To Be The Magistrate Jun 2012 #41

Murdered? SecurityManager Jun 2012 #42

Try Reading What You Reply To, Sir: It Will Help make You look Less Ridiculous The Magistrate Jun 2012 #43

You just ignored the video and statements from others? SecurityManager Jun 2012 #44

Nothing Exculpatory There, Sir: No Defense Against A Depraved Indifference Charge The Magistrate Jun 2012 #48

surely, brownshirts thought they were justified too fascisthunter Jun 2012 #77

Two different state's attorneys, at two different times casually and indifferently acknowledged 1monster Jun 2012 #79

The depraved indifference standard is the one in Maryland. Robinson v State, 517 A. 2d 94 (1986) AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #46

"We pepper sprayed him. We beat him. And we Tasered him until he stopped moving. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #45

And That There Will Be No Prosecution, Sir, is the Real Problem Here The Magistrate Jun 2012 #54

No prosecutions. And the incident may not even interfere with police promotions. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #55

The man DIED after being repeatedly clubed, tazed, and pepper sprayed. What more 1monster Jun 2012 #78

Oh well, just another bad apple among the police. Bake Jun 2012 #47

Sounds like a bad apple ... tree. mzmolly Jun 2012 #71

The whole damn barrel ... hell, the whole damn orchard is rotten! Bake Jun 2012 #88

I'm assuming that he was malaise Jun 2012 #49

I haven't seen his picture Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #50

Clearly that was not the case. Cowpunk Jun 2012 #61

It's being reported on TheBrownWatch. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #66

Yes indeed malaise Jun 2012 #74

Odd how the bad apples always coincidentally end up coming together RedCappedBandit Jun 2012 #53

I've noticed that too. Mariana Jun 2012 #57

Like it or not The Wizard Jun 2012 #59

I'd Like To Say... Unbelieveable... I Really Wound... WillyT Jun 2012 #63

Typical. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #64

This like this is why I am TERRIFIED of cops. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #65

BAN TASERS. nt BlueIris Jun 2012 #68

Did I miss what race he was ~ goclark Jun 2012 #72

fucking coockoo psychopaths fascisthunter Jun 2012 #75

What is most telling to me about this upsurge oppressive behavior...... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #80

Many, many years ago my uncle was thrown in jail magic59 Jun 2012 #83

Yay, Cops! Iggo Jun 2012 #84